"5/5/2005 6:57:08 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm"
"5/5/2005 6:57:20 PM","Sinistrahd","I already have a dog tag, so don't count me :P"
"5/5/2005 6:57:26 PM","DaveAudio","Hey James..."
"5/5/2005 6:57:29 PM","Sinistrahd","hi"
"5/5/2005 6:57:37 PM","DaveAudio","lol......tonight its the 1st 3 newbs"
"5/5/2005 6:57:48 PM","Sinistrahd","ah"
"5/5/2005 6:58:09 PM","DaveAudio","I already owe flux 3 tags......lol"
"5/5/2005 6:58:43 PM","Sinistrahd","speak of the devil"
"5/5/2005 6:58:46 PM","Sinistrahd",":P"
"5/5/2005 6:58:53 PM","Flux","muhahahaha!"
"5/5/2005 6:59:03 PM","DaveAudio","lol.......that was weird......"
"5/5/2005 6:59:15 PM","Sinistrahd","I just reminded him"
"5/5/2005 6:59:19 PM","Sinistrahd","and taz"
"5/5/2005 6:59:22 PM","Sinistrahd","and John Falto"
"5/5/2005 6:59:27 PM","Sinistrahd","and Khan Jal"
"5/5/2005 6:59:36 PM","Sinistrahd","I'll try to get adrian havens too"
"5/5/2005 6:59:41 PM","Flux","actually, it was David's reminder in the LTAG channel that caused me to log in"
"5/5/2005 6:59:43 PM","Sinistrahd","but he seems leery to join us"
"5/5/2005 6:59:49 PM","Sinistrahd","he runs LazerTagATL"
"5/5/2005 6:59:54 PM","Sinistrahd","oh"
"5/5/2005 7:00:32 PM","DaveAudio","Hey John"
"5/5/2005 7:00:53 PM","johnfalto","greetings and salutations"
"5/5/2005 7:01:39 PM","DaveAudio","Hey John, while I have you here"
"5/5/2005 7:01:43 PM","johnfalto","I will be popping in and out as I am doing some late night work (well 8PM at least)."
"5/5/2005 7:02:23 PM","DaveAudio",".....did we agree upon anything when we talked at the mall as to what you wanted on your bases?   Didn't have anything to write down stuff on, and both Cathie and I have terrible short term memory"
"5/5/2005 7:02:33 PM","DaveAudio","<--------still at work too"
"5/5/2005 7:03:02 PM","johnfalto","anything on my bases? such as - do tell"
"5/5/2005 7:03:36 PM","Flux","and I need to go to that t-bal game. can I change my nickname without logging out?"
"5/5/2005 7:03:48 PM","DaveAudio","We were going to go with just stock, which is hit points & regen, with 2 sensors forming 360 coverage in a dome..."
"5/5/2005 7:03:48 PM","Flux","nope."
"5/5/2005 7:04:14 PM","DaveAudio","and you wanted a indicator on the top side as well as the front correct?"
"5/5/2005 7:05:21 PM","DaveAudio","hehehe......sorry, not IRC chat here"
"5/5/2005 7:05:42 PM","DaveAudio","I'll tell people you are just lurking till you get back"
"5/5/2005 7:05:44 PM","johnfalto","the indicator on the top was not required, however if you can do it without more time being consumed, then go for it"
"5/5/2005 7:06:29 PM","DaveAudio","Okay,  I was just going to chain the to LED's, might be a little dimmer, but still see-able"
"5/5/2005 7:06:51 PM","johnfalto","cool, I got the bandanas this afternoon"
"5/5/2005 7:07:26 PM","DaveAudio","Good......that means mine might be here by tommorrow!  You might get your samples quicker than you though Flux"
"5/5/2005 7:07:39 PM","DaveAudio","er.....I thought?"
"5/5/2005 7:07:43 PM","DaveAudio","something like that"
"5/5/2005 7:08:06 PM","DaveAudio","Hey welcome over!"
"5/5/2005 7:08:17 PM","klaczak","hello"
"5/5/2005 7:09:54 PM","DaveAudio","Oh.....at some point also John, I'll need to know what you want to be the default start up hit points...and how many points damage for a full hit, and how many for a partial hit"
"5/5/2005 7:10:51 PM","johnfalto","Dave, when you get to that tech point, drop me an email and I will call you to discuss it furher"
"5/5/2005 7:11:12 PM","johnfalto","BTW, my AOL and YAHOO IM screenname is johnfalto"
"5/5/2005 7:11:23 PM","DaveAudio","Okay, will do.."
"5/5/2005 7:11:39 PM","Sinistrahd","hello o1knives"
"5/5/2005 7:11:46 PM","o1knives","Hey all!"
"5/5/2005 7:11:51 PM","DaveAudio","I'm going to be out of town this weekend so not much will get done till next week...."
"5/5/2005 7:11:57 PM","DaveAudio","hey knives"
"5/5/2005 7:12:23 PM","Sinistrahd","John, Dave doesn't use IM...  I tried to get him into that :P"
"5/5/2005 7:12:32 PM","DaveAudio","Klaczak and knives......if you are wondering, to select a picture, click on settings, then profile, then select an avatar"
"5/5/2005 7:12:51 PM","DaveAudio","IM?"
"5/5/2005 7:13:00 PM","Sinistrahd","instant messenger"
"5/5/2005 7:13:47 PM","johnfalto","Well you have my email, and I check it several times a day."
"5/5/2005 7:13:51 PM","DaveAudio","Ah.......nope.....had it once, people kept bombarding me in the middle of a game at a crucial moment - getting me killed......so I turned that thing off! :/"
"5/5/2005 7:14:08 PM","johnfalto","understood"
"5/5/2005 7:14:39 PM","DaveAudio","lol, but now that I havn't played an online game in about a year, it probably wouldn't hurt to give it a try again"
"5/5/2005 7:15:22 PM","klaczak","i play counterstrike"
"5/5/2005 7:15:49 PM","Sinistrahd","where are you guys from btw?  anyone near my club in Illinois?"
"5/5/2005 7:16:03 PM","DaveAudio","Oh by the way, Johnfalto, klaczak, 01knives, you are the winners of the dogtags tonight, if you want them, please send your physical mailing address to cathie@1sourcelasertag.com"
"5/5/2005 7:16:25 PM","o1knives","SW Virginia, no where near Illinois, I'm afriad."
"5/5/2005 7:16:41 PM","Sinistrahd","ah, you're near west virginia though"
"5/5/2005 7:16:48 PM","Sinistrahd","where I want to one day hold a game"
"5/5/2005 7:16:56 PM","Sinistrahd","at the haunted penitentiary"
"5/5/2005 7:16:56 PM","o1knives","Dogtags?  Did I miss something?"
"5/5/2005 7:17:11 PM","o1knives","Yeah, I saw your post about that.  Would be very cool!"
"5/5/2005 7:17:16 PM","klaczak","awesome lol...i had NO idea i was going to win those..hehe"
"5/5/2005 7:17:23 PM","klaczak","i live in pittsburgh, pennsylvania"
"5/5/2005 7:17:56 PM","Sinistrahd","near Khan Jal"
"5/5/2005 7:19:08 PM","Sinistrahd","hello"
"5/5/2005 7:19:20 PM","DaveAudio","First 3 people to the chat room (that havn't already won them) get a LazerTag Team Ops Dogtag, if they want one"
"5/5/2005 7:19:33 PM","DaveAudio","hey Hawkewood"
"5/5/2005 7:19:56 PM","Hawkewood","Howdy."
"5/5/2005 7:20:30 PM","Sinistrahd","its almost like he has a script running to do that :P"
"5/5/2005 7:21:06 PM","Hawkewood","Could be."
"5/5/2005 7:21:09 PM","DaveAudio","lol"
"5/5/2005 7:21:29 PM","Hawkewood","Cut and paste then, perhaps."
"5/5/2005 7:21:46 PM","DaveAudio","No, you just click on the sound on the audio column"
"5/5/2005 7:21:49 PM","johnfalto","click the audio tab"
"5/5/2005 7:22:00 PM","Sinistrahd","wonder if you can just type it in too..."
"5/5/2005 7:22:06 PM","klaczak","lol"
"5/5/2005 7:22:07 PM","Sinistrahd","(Audio) Great"
"5/5/2005 7:22:09 PM","Sinistrahd","nope"
"5/5/2005 7:22:10 PM","DaveAudio","nope...its click only"
"5/5/2005 7:22:41 PM","Sinistrahd","so anyway, what kind of LARP ideas do you guys have stewing?"
"5/5/2005 7:22:41 PM","DaveAudio","Lets get some LT chat going"
"5/5/2005 7:22:58 PM","DaveAudio","I guess you were pondering what I was pondering"
"5/5/2005 7:23:04 PM","Sinistrahd","I was"
"5/5/2005 7:23:19 PM","Sinistrahd","I didn't get to test my scenario game last weekend"
"5/5/2005 7:23:26 PM","DaveAudio","Tell us about your games James and then I'll mention mine"
"5/5/2005 7:23:43 PM","DaveAudio","er......maybe I should go first, then I won't have as big of an act to follow ;)"
"5/5/2005 7:23:57 PM","DaveAudio",".....bummer, what happened"
"5/5/2005 7:24:05 PM","Sinistrahd","well, basically my game was set up where you had to make your way up a multi floor building, picking up hint cards as you found them"
"5/5/2005 7:24:18 PM","Sinistrahd","oh"
"5/5/2005 7:24:19 PM","Sinistrahd","heh"
"5/5/2005 7:24:31 PM","Sinistrahd","we didnt have enough players until hour and a half in"
"5/5/2005 7:24:38 PM","Sinistrahd","though we eventually had 10 players"
"5/5/2005 7:24:57 PM","Sinistrahd","but going up floors, each floor an extra challenge is added"
"5/5/2005 7:25:13 PM","Sinistrahd","you start with 3 stationary guards with low ammo and health"
"5/5/2005 7:25:41 PM","Sinistrahd","and end up with more roving guards with radio comms, mega tags, shields, and high health and ammo"
"5/5/2005 7:25:54 PM","Sinistrahd","the hint cards can also be used in a multi player game"
"5/5/2005 7:26:00 PM","Sinistrahd","I use TAGM for this btw"
"5/5/2005 7:26:19 PM","DaveAudio","so the easy level was on the lower floors, then you increased difficulty on every floor above that"
"5/5/2005 7:26:27 PM","Sinistrahd","since if you set up multiple TAGM games the various player 1/Team 1 guys can shoot each other"
"5/5/2005 7:26:32 PM","Sinistrahd","yep"
"5/5/2005 7:26:40 PM","o1knives","And one player is supposed to take all of those people?  Or is it teams?"
"5/5/2005 7:26:41 PM","Sinistrahd","and the goal is to collect the most hint cards"
"5/5/2005 7:26:51 PM","Sinistrahd","1 player for this part"
"5/5/2005 7:26:53 PM","johnfalto","Have you had a look at Peter Montgomerys website for a game scenario of Laser Doom"
"5/5/2005 7:26:54 PM","Sinistrahd","the team captains"
"5/5/2005 7:27:16 PM","Sinistrahd","no John, got a link?"
"5/5/2005 7:27:27 PM","johnfalto","Originally designed for WOW but it is interchangable."
"5/5/2005 7:27:42 PM","Sinistrahd","the hint cards describe the location of a Tag Master Blaster in the field where the team games will take place"
"5/5/2005 7:27:43 PM","johnfalto","I'll post the link in a moment"
"5/5/2005 7:27:54 PM","Sinistrahd","the more hints you have, the more likely your team gets it"
"5/5/2005 7:28:29 PM","o1knives","A tad off topic, but how are you all defining an LARP?"
"5/5/2005 7:28:33 PM","Sinistrahd","of course the tmb doesnt come out until late fall"
"5/5/2005 7:28:56 PM","o1knives","What you just described doesn't sound exactly like what the Brits talk about."
"5/5/2005 7:29:13 PM","Sinistrahd","I would define it as any game where you have goals other than just tagging everyone out AND have players with set roles (NPCs)"
"5/5/2005 7:29:30 PM","DaveAudio","There are different types of LARP"
"5/5/2005 7:29:36 PM","Sinistrahd","they have a lot of veteran players, so their LARPs can get a lot more complex"
"5/5/2005 7:29:37 PM","Hawkewood","Definitely a scenario based LARP."
"5/5/2005 7:30:32 PM","o1knives","Different types?"
"5/5/2005 7:30:36 PM","Hawkewood","Or, laser tag scavenger hunt."
"5/5/2005 7:30:52 PM","Sinistrahd","then I have another few games in mind, but I will let David get his ideas on the table if he wants"
"5/5/2005 7:30:58 PM","Sinistrahd","(Gotta review notes anyway)"
"5/5/2005 7:31:06 PM","DaveAudio","You can play a simple LARP like JAmes is describing"
"5/5/2005 7:31:24 PM","DaveAudio","where the larp has no real story line but is goal oriented"
"5/5/2005 7:31:48 PM","DaveAudio",".....the next level up is to add a story line to make more interest...and maybe add a few props like we did at TagFest"
"5/5/2005 7:31:59 PM","Sinistrahd","its a way to get your regulars interested in the bigger games"
"5/5/2005 7:32:16 PM","DaveAudio","...the next level up is to add character roles, where you act out a part in a story line"
"5/5/2005 7:32:22 PM","johnfalto","I am back, couldn't find the page but this link has somethinh similar http://www.laserblitz.com/role.htm"
"5/5/2005 7:32:23 PM","Sinistrahd","like a game I will hopefully be hosting at Sci Fi Summer CON"
"5/5/2005 7:32:32 PM","johnfalto","http://www.laserblitz.com/role.htm"
"5/5/2005 7:33:11 PM","DaveAudio","...then there is full LARP where you actually roll dice to resolve some parts of the game, and Laser Tag gear to resolve battle conflicts..."
"5/5/2005 7:33:31 PM","DaveAudio","Which is more of what the UK groups do......with full costume and props"
"5/5/2005 7:33:43 PM","o1knives","Ok, that's what I thought they did."
"5/5/2005 7:33:54 PM","DaveAudio","You don't get shields unless you have something that represents shields like a kevlar jacket"
"5/5/2005 7:34:04 PM","Sinistrahd","John, that game would probably be better with Legacy gear, since LTO scores based on hits, and you'd have to shoot the guns to set up HP after the game starts"
"5/5/2005 7:34:23 PM","Sinistrahd","or my body armor :P"
"5/5/2005 7:34:28 PM","DaveAudio","lol"
"5/5/2005 7:35:15 PM","DaveAudio","Yeah the Doom game works great with Steradian gear as they have the power up boxes and the info setup gun capabilities.....it would be harder to use a hosted LTTO game for that (for now anywhay)"
"5/5/2005 7:35:36 PM","DaveAudio","Here in the U.S. we mainly play the simple version of LARP"
"5/5/2005 7:35:50 PM","DaveAudio","as people here are not as into the costuming & props and such"
"5/5/2005 7:36:12 PM","Sinistrahd","oh, I'm planning on changing that Dav"
"5/5/2005 7:36:13 PM","Sinistrahd","e"
"5/5/2005 7:36:14 PM","DaveAudio",".......although I have wanted to try and get some SCA groups into LT to give it a try"
"5/5/2005 7:36:28 PM","o1knives","I would think it would be hard to add atmosphere without costuming and props"
"5/5/2005 7:36:30 PM","Sinistrahd","My echo jacket is almost setup for in-game use"
"5/5/2005 7:36:41 PM","DaveAudio","lol.......James"
"5/5/2005 7:37:03 PM","DaveAudio","I like costumes, but trying to get others to put the time and expense into it, isn't that easy"
"5/5/2005 7:37:24 PM","DaveAudio","....we are still transforming people from the paintball ideologies.....grin"
"5/5/2005 7:37:24 PM","o1knives","SCA might be a good place to start.  But aren't they more in the era of swords?"
"5/5/2005 7:37:46 PM","o1knives","Wouldn't sci-fi conventions be a more likely place to pick them up?"
"5/5/2005 7:37:51 PM","DaveAudio","Yes, but they are in the right mindset for a full scale LARP game then your average tagger"
"5/5/2005 7:38:11 PM","Sinistrahd","its hard enough getting people to play lazer tag as it is at ISU without asking them to wear costumes :P"
"5/5/2005 7:38:23 PM","Sinistrahd","even the "combat club" dont wear costumes"
"5/5/2005 7:38:36 PM","DaveAudio","Most average taggers can't stand the delays that come along with a more in depth LARP games, they get impatient and just want to start shooting something....lol"
"5/5/2005 7:38:52 PM","johnfalto","what makes the scenario if more the props than the clothes"
"5/5/2005 7:38:58 PM","Hawkewood","SCA will be a tough sell. Legynds, Solar, or Nero may be a better source for players."
"5/5/2005 7:39:03 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, I still get ltag games breaking out while hosting"
"5/5/2005 7:39:08 PM","DaveAudio","found that out the hard way at TagFest, although we ran into a ton of technical difficulties which made delays extensive"
"5/5/2005 7:39:41 PM","DaveAudio","Tell me more about Legynds, Solar and Nero......I'm not familiar with those"
"5/5/2005 7:39:50 PM","DaveAudio","(thus these chat sessions!)"
"5/5/2005 7:39:57 PM","Sinistrahd","brb"
"5/5/2005 7:40:11 PM","johnfalto","going back to the delays"
"5/5/2005 7:40:19 PM","Hawkewood","Fantasy LARPS. Nero's national, near as I can tell. Used to be on www.larp.com 's directory."
"5/5/2005 7:40:19 PM","DaveAudio","my point exactly James"
"5/5/2005 7:40:53 PM","DaveAudio","I'll have to check that out.......thanks for the website reference...."
"5/5/2005 7:40:59 PM","DaveAudio","did you have a question John?"
"5/5/2005 7:40:59 PM","johnfalto","posting and debriefing delays is one reason to stick to classic LT"
"5/5/2005 7:41:29 PM","DaveAudio","Agreed to a degree......"
"5/5/2005 7:42:32 PM","DaveAudio","but being able to set hit points, reloads, shields, etc is alot of fun.....and the ltto games like Hid N Seek are alot of fun and would be hard to implement in classic tag gear without major room for cheating"
"5/5/2005 7:42:56 PM","johnfalto","that is true"
"5/5/2005 7:43:05 PM","DaveAudio","Plus its nice to be able to see if you really did as well as you thought......I found out I'm no were near as good as I thought I was...."
"5/5/2005 7:43:06 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, especially the fact that shooting while you ae hiding gives the opponent tags back"
"5/5/2005 7:43:42 PM","DaveAudio","But for some Larp game styles, classic gear would work best"
"5/5/2005 7:43:45 PM","Sinistrahd","my co-founder was quite miffed to learn it wasnt him dominating recent games but his thunder pack"
"5/5/2005 7:43:47 PM","Sinistrahd",":p"
"5/5/2005 7:43:56 PM","DaveAudio","lol"
"5/5/2005 7:44:17 PM","DaveAudio","Hawkewood, are you into LARP groups?"
"5/5/2005 7:44:59 PM","DaveAudio","I'm always interested in gaining more knowledge into the world I know little of"
"5/5/2005 7:45:30 PM","DaveAudio","<----dying to throw a Hallow'sEve Tag game"
"5/5/2005 7:45:31 PM","Hawkewood","I NPC for some."
"5/5/2005 7:45:42 PM","DaveAudio","Where are you located?"
"5/5/2005 7:45:49 PM","Hawkewood","Atlanta, GA"
"5/5/2005 7:46:17 PM","johnfalto","Have you ever played with the Macon College group?"
"5/5/2005 7:46:28 PM","johnfalto","In Macon, GA.."
"5/5/2005 7:46:42 PM","Hawkewood","Not yet. Met John last Sunday. Going to playw/them soon."
"5/5/2005 7:47:04 PM","johnfalto","They play primarily LC v2 but they have some great stuff. Check out their website."
"5/5/2005 7:47:06 PM","Sinistrahd","That's a group ripe for some LARPs"
"5/5/2005 7:47:17 PM","Sinistrahd","they sometimes have 50 players show up from what I hear"
"5/5/2005 7:47:34 PM","johnfalto","I live in Orlando, Florida so I am hoping to make a trip up there again."
"5/5/2005 7:47:38 PM","Hawkewood","I have. John and I got a discussion going about a LARP when we met. Something I've been working on for a bit."
"5/5/2005 7:48:59 PM","DaveAudio","They are the ones who came up with the Halloween games I'm reffering to"
"5/5/2005 7:49:08 PM","DaveAudio","I was hoping Pilot would be here tonight"
"5/5/2005 7:49:21 PM","DaveAudio","so I could pick his brain a bit......."
"5/5/2005 7:49:23 PM","DaveAudio",":)"
"5/5/2005 7:49:33 PM","johnfalto","could get messy"
"5/5/2005 7:49:37 PM","DaveAudio","lol"
"5/5/2005 7:49:48 PM","DaveAudio","I was on the Dropezone chat this afternoon"
"5/5/2005 7:49:48 PM","Hawkewood","I left him kind of picked over from when we talked. He may still be regenerating."
"5/5/2005 7:50:07 PM","johnfalto","resistance is futile"
"5/5/2005 7:50:16 PM","DaveAudio","and Phil was showing some of the photos from the big star wars convention that just happened here in the U.S."
"5/5/2005 7:50:19 PM","o1knives","Ah, knowing him, he'd be quite ready to talk some more!"
"5/5/2005 7:50:26 PM","Hawkewood","True."
"5/5/2005 7:50:46 PM","DaveAudio","The pictures from that convention have me craving a Star Wars LARP something fierce"
"5/5/2005 7:50:48 PM","Sinistrahd","I have another game with a prop which leaves little to the imagination, but finding a place to play it is gonna be hard"
"5/5/2005 7:50:59 PM","Sinistrahd","hehe"
"5/5/2005 7:51:07 PM","DaveAudio","I think we are going to try one at TagFest next year...if I can get ahold of some costumes in advance"
"5/5/2005 7:51:24 PM","Sinistrahd","I think I may have offended Phil..."
"5/5/2005 7:51:41 PM","o1knives","My group tried a Stargate themed game, but it didn't work terribly well."
"5/5/2005 7:51:49 PM","Sinistrahd","I said I didn't see the big deal with Star Wars...  I liked the movies, but thats about the extent of things"
"5/5/2005 7:51:51 PM","DaveAudio","....Phil is pretty hard to offend, unless you start criticizing his gear :)"
"5/5/2005 7:52:08 PM","o1knives","Kind of broke down into just another kill the other team game"
"5/5/2005 7:52:09 PM","johnfalto","why didn't the SG theme work"
"5/5/2005 7:52:14 PM","DaveAudio","lol.........yep, you offended him JAmes........lol"
"5/5/2005 7:52:15 PM","Sinistrahd","hello the_boss"
"5/5/2005 7:52:22 PM","Cathie","Hi dave i like doing your laundry"
"5/5/2005 7:52:23 PM","DaveAudio","Hey Cath"
"5/5/2005 7:52:36 PM","DaveAudio","shmeck........my B-Day money!"
"5/5/2005 7:52:44 PM","johnfalto","now kids, play nice"
"5/5/2005 7:52:46 PM","Cathie","I found $20.00 in your pocket"
"5/5/2005 7:52:48 PM","Sinistrahd","whoops"
"5/5/2005 7:52:59 PM","DaveAudio","not on the chat board woman!"
"5/5/2005 7:53:00 PM","Hawkewood","Nice tip."
"5/5/2005 7:53:11 PM","o1knives","Maybe we'd better log off and let these two have it out!"
"5/5/2005 7:53:19 PM","DaveAudio","heheheh"
"5/5/2005 7:53:35 PM","DaveAudio","MINE!"
"5/5/2005 7:53:39 PM","Hawkewood","Nothing clears a room faster than a man and a woman getting into a tiff."
"5/5/2005 7:53:41 PM","Sinistrahd","heres a couple pictures of the prop my scenario game for Sci Fi Summer is gonna revolve around"
"5/5/2005 7:53:43 PM","Sinistrahd","ahem"
"5/5/2005 7:53:45 PM","Sinistrahd",":P"
"5/5/2005 7:53:50 PM","Cathie","don't worry you can have it"
"5/5/2005 7:53:56 PM","Sinistrahd","http://www.gamespot.at/catalog/images/xb_steelbattalionplus.jpg"
"5/5/2005 7:54:00 PM","DaveAudio","sorry james, go ahead (we be having too much fun)"
"5/5/2005 7:54:03 PM","Cathie","I just thought it was kind of you"
"5/5/2005 7:54:10 PM","DaveAudio","lol"
"5/5/2005 7:54:14 PM","Sinistrahd","http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gr.bolt.com/previews/screens/xbox/steel_battalion/steel_battalion1b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gr.bolt.com/previews/screens/xbox/steel_battalion/steel_battalion.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=78&tbnid=50nRZ5oV7E0J:&tbnh=101&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=6&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dxbox%2Bsteel%2Bbattalion%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN"
"5/5/2005 7:54:24 PM","Sinistrahd","whoops, john didnt click open in new window"
"5/5/2005 7:54:26 PM","DaveAudio","now see, you went and scared John off"
"5/5/2005 7:54:29 PM","Cathie","ok I'll go and let ya all have your fun"
"5/5/2005 7:54:35 PM","Sinistrahd",";Doesn't he do that every time?"
"5/5/2005 7:54:36 PM","DaveAudio","NOOOOOOOOO!"
"5/5/2005 7:54:39 PM","DaveAudio","Stay !"
"5/5/2005 7:54:41 PM","DaveAudio",":)"
"5/5/2005 7:54:49 PM","DaveAudio","(egad, that came out wrong)"
"5/5/2005 7:55:07 PM","johnfalto","knocked myself out of the chat room"
"5/5/2005 7:55:17 PM","DaveAudio","<-------gonna go check out those links........brb"
"5/5/2005 7:55:26 PM","Hawkewood","Must have been that mug I threw."
"5/5/2005 7:55:47 PM","johnfalto","James, what about the steel battallin gamer. How does that play into a game?"
"5/5/2005 7:56:08 PM","Hawkewood","Gtgfn. Got to cook dinner. Nice meeting y'all."
"5/5/2005 7:56:10 PM","Sinistrahd","gonna use that gear for a battle between the robots of corrin and the humans of the Jihad to gain control of a non-cymek battle-armor"
"5/5/2005 7:56:19 PM","Sinistrahd","ttyl HW"
"5/5/2005 7:56:22 PM","DaveAudio","Oh man........James, you trying to make me dissapear for a couple months?!?!?!"
"5/5/2005 7:56:29 PM","Sinistrahd","heh"
"5/5/2005 7:56:46 PM","Sinistrahd","you actually have to run a startup sequence to begin play"
"5/5/2005 7:56:57 PM","Sinistrahd","you just missed Adrian Pilot"
"5/5/2005 7:56:59 PM","Sinistrahd",":p"
"5/5/2005 7:57:02 PM","DaveAudio","Hey......speak of the Man, and he arives!"
"5/5/2005 7:57:19 PM","DaveAudio","Were your ears ringing Pilot?"
"5/5/2005 7:57:23 PM","Pilot","what is up"
"5/5/2005 7:57:34 PM","DaveAudio","We were talking about LARP games"
"5/5/2005 7:57:36 PM","Sinistrahd","but that game will be a respawn game"
"5/5/2005 7:57:38 PM","o1knives","Hey Pilot"
"5/5/2005 7:57:39 PM","Sinistrahd","99 tags"
"5/5/2005 7:57:51 PM","Sinistrahd","and there will be 3 teams"
"5/5/2005 7:57:53 PM","Pilot","what dod i miss"
"5/5/2005 7:57:55 PM","DaveAudio","EGAD!.........99 tags...........with respawn!"
"5/5/2005 7:57:56 PM","Pilot","did"
"5/5/2005 7:58:02 PM","Sinistrahd","with a team3 of 1 player"
"5/5/2005 7:58:06 PM","DaveAudio","no body would ever freakin die!"
"5/5/2005 7:58:13 PM","Sinistrahd","oh weve done this"
"5/5/2005 7:58:17 PM","Sinistrahd","most of us died"
"5/5/2005 7:58:18 PM","DaveAudio",".......should call that a game of zombies!"
"5/5/2005 7:58:23 PM","Sinistrahd","it took about 25 minutes"
"5/5/2005 7:58:34 PM","Sinistrahd","nah, it represents reinforcements"
"5/5/2005 7:58:49 PM","Sinistrahd","anyway, the team 3 is the automatic defense of the mech"
"5/5/2005 7:58:59 PM","Sinistrahd","it has to be beat in order to access the game"
"5/5/2005 7:59:21 PM","Sinistrahd","then one team needs to get a person in the mech and protect him whil he starts up the mech"
"5/5/2005 7:59:38 PM","DaveAudio","Pilot, we have mainly just discussed the different levels of LARP games....from super simple scenarios with no plot or story line to the full blown story line , full costume game where Laser Tag is just tool used for combat resolution"
"5/5/2005 7:59:39 PM","Sinistrahd","whichever team successfully starts it up wins by virtue of their new WMD"
"5/5/2005 7:59:48 PM","Pilot","cool"
"5/5/2005 7:59:51 PM","Pilot","thx"
"5/5/2005 8:00:24 PM","Pilot","no rule mean no larp"
"5/5/2005 8:00:28 PM","DaveAudio","That is a cool idea JAmes"
"5/5/2005 8:01:14 PM","Sinistrahd","btw when I said corrin and the jihad, that's from the Dune series and prequel series"
"5/5/2005 8:01:16 PM","Pilot","and no plot means no larp"
"5/5/2005 8:01:19 PM","DaveAudio","hmmmmmmm......mixing video games with actual play that is going on......hmmmmmmm"
"5/5/2005 8:01:47 PM","Pilot","go to the MLG site, for tips"
"5/5/2005 8:01:51 PM","Sinistrahd","maybe Tetris would also lend itself to be used for disarming a bomb or something"
"5/5/2005 8:02:09 PM","johnfalto","John, what is the play schedule for the MGL. My wife wants to head up to GA again."
"5/5/2005 8:02:44 PM","DaveAudio","We could also make simple VB programs to simulate bombs on a lap top, and the player has to play a video game like the board game OPERATION using the mouse to defuse the bomb"
"5/5/2005 8:02:56 PM","o1knives","So, if your LARP requires NPC's, how do you go about motivating people to play these roles?"
"5/5/2005 8:02:56 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm"
"5/5/2005 8:02:59 PM","Pilot","EVERY 4th Saturday of the month"
"5/5/2005 8:03:05 PM","DaveAudio","Yes.....I'd like to put your schedule up on the Tag Sport Calendar too :)"
"5/5/2005 8:03:09 PM","Sinistrahd","that ties in with another idea me and some friends had"
"5/5/2005 8:03:13 PM","Pilot","love to have you guys again"
"5/5/2005 8:03:21 PM","o1knives","Most folks in my club have problems with only wanting to blast the other players"
"5/5/2005 8:03:31 PM","Sinistrahd","play somewhere with a LAN set up"
"5/5/2005 8:03:47 PM","DaveAudio","Cathie want's to go on a week long vacation this year.....hmmmmmmm......Georgia might be interesting :)"
"5/5/2005 8:03:50 PM","Sinistrahd","that'd lend the games a very cyberpunk feel"
"5/5/2005 8:04:11 PM","Pilot","lots of historic crap to see in Middle Ga..."
"5/5/2005 8:04:11 PM","DaveAudio","knives......I ahve that same problem here"
"5/5/2005 8:04:14 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm, too bad the 4th weekend is nowhen near the CON"
"5/5/2005 8:04:26 PM","Pilot","and you guys are welcome to stay with us"
"5/5/2005 8:04:40 PM","Sinistrahd","Hey Pilot do you live near Atlanta?"
"5/5/2005 8:04:43 PM","Sinistrahd","or is that far?"
"5/5/2005 8:04:47 PM","DaveAudio","We almost had a mutiny on our hands at TagFest because of some of the technical delays in the LARP games"
"5/5/2005 8:04:51 PM","Pilot","do now...Nwenan"
"5/5/2005 8:04:57 PM","johnfalto","There are a lot of inexpensive hotels near the college"
"5/5/2005 8:05:02 PM","Pilot","tru"
"5/5/2005 8:05:05 PM","klaczak","goshshshshshss"
"5/5/2005 8:05:08 PM","Pilot","up to u"
"5/5/2005 8:05:13 PM","klaczak","i hate reports"
"5/5/2005 8:05:20 PM","Sinistrahd","any chance me and my small crew could crash at your place instead of at the con hotel?"
"5/5/2005 8:05:21 PM","DaveAudio","reports?"
"5/5/2005 8:05:27 PM","klaczak","thats what ive been doing the past 2 hours"
"5/5/2005 8:05:29 PM","Pilot","Sinistrahd...the MGL plays an hour south of ATL"
"5/5/2005 8:05:32 PM","Sinistrahd","just looking for money saving alternatives"
"5/5/2005 8:05:42 PM","Sinistrahd","ah"
"5/5/2005 8:05:50 PM","Pilot","u working con?"
"5/5/2005 8:06:00 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, running the lazer tag for adrian"
"5/5/2005 8:06:15 PM","DaveAudio","hey now that klaczak is available........quick vote....IRT-2x or Deluxe gun...as favorite?"
"5/5/2005 8:06:22 PM","DaveAudio","<---IRT-2x"
"5/5/2005 8:06:26 PM","Sinistrahd","driving down starting thursday afternoon"
"5/5/2005 8:06:40 PM","Pilot","u r talking about Sci-Fi Summer Con, right?"
"5/5/2005 8:06:41 PM","Sinistrahd","I like the IRT-2x"
"5/5/2005 8:06:43 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:07:02 PM","Sinistrahd","my cofounder prefers the Deluxe"
"5/5/2005 8:07:06 PM","DaveAudio","Be sure to take some good pictures James......i wish I'd new you were going, I could have sent you some cool posters that Wayne gave us"
"5/5/2005 8:07:15 PM","Sinistrahd","and in my club we have about even split between the 2"
"5/5/2005 8:07:28 PM","Pilot","call my cell...well talk"
"5/5/2005 8:07:31 PM","Sinistrahd","well it isnt until June"
"5/5/2005 8:07:33 PM","Sinistrahd","and yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:07:38 PM","Sinistrahd","I wanted to mention that"
"5/5/2005 8:07:45 PM","Sinistrahd","there is gonna be a Lazer Tag table"
"5/5/2005 8:07:54 PM","Sinistrahd","so anyone with like brochures and stuff"
"5/5/2005 8:07:59 PM","DaveAudio","Okay, I don't think I'll need them between now and then, I'll send them with your dog tags.."
"5/5/2005 8:08:03 PM","Sinistrahd","send em to me and I can get them on the table"
"5/5/2005 8:08:20 PM","DaveAudio","Co......we will make up some trifolds"
"5/5/2005 8:08:24 PM","Sinistrahd","I already have tags, but maybe with the bandannas ? :P"
"5/5/2005 8:08:56 PM","DaveAudio","lol......I'll be ordering those on Monday.....waiting for a money transfer to go through, you will have them before the middle of may"
"5/5/2005 8:09:09 PM","Sinistrahd","oh yeah, the reason you havent gotten that lazer tag essay yet, Dave, is that I submitted a revision to it for a better grade"
"5/5/2005 8:09:19 PM","Sinistrahd","so the revision will hopefully be a better one to send you"
"5/5/2005 8:09:21 PM","DaveAudio","John just got his in Florida and I ordered them on Monday"
"5/5/2005 8:09:37 PM","johnfalto","team colors"
"5/5/2005 8:09:44 PM","klaczak","GregG?"
"5/5/2005 8:09:53 PM","Sinistrahd","thats Flux"
"5/5/2005 8:09:59 PM","Sinistrahd","flux = GregG"
"5/5/2005 8:10:03 PM","klaczak","ah, thx"
"5/5/2005 8:10:04 PM","DaveAudio","Sounds good, its going to be the center piece of the next majoy Laser Horizon, unless it is so big we release it as itself"
"5/5/2005 8:10:23 PM","Sinistrahd","well it is almost 6 pages typed double spaced"
"5/5/2005 8:10:23 PM","klaczak","i wanted to ask him for his sites url"
"5/5/2005 8:10:28 PM","johnfalto","looking forward to reading it"
"5/5/2005 8:10:33 PM","Sinistrahd","after cutting down on it for the rev"
"5/5/2005 8:10:42 PM","Sinistrahd","and I have 6 sources"
"5/5/2005 8:10:47 PM","Sinistrahd","including you, John"
"5/5/2005 8:10:57 PM","Sinistrahd","from the laser warning on your board"
"5/5/2005 8:11:33 PM","Sinistrahd","2 sources are actually from the ltag board, but the other one is one of tagferret's posts"
"5/5/2005 8:11:39 PM","klaczak","nvm, found it"
"5/5/2005 8:11:47 PM","Sinistrahd","wb Pilot"
"5/5/2005 8:11:57 PM","Pilot","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:11:59 PM","DaveAudio","Welcome Back Pilot"
"5/5/2005 8:12:03 PM","Pilot","got booted"
"5/5/2005 8:12:19 PM","DaveAudio","hmmmmm.......the system is not supposed to do that anymore....."
"5/5/2005 8:12:20 PM","Sinistrahd","wow, looking at these pics, I should really play steel battalion"
"5/5/2005 8:12:36 PM","Sinistrahd","It cost me 225 used from someone on my ship"
"5/5/2005 8:12:55 PM","DaveAudio","Yikes......."
"5/5/2005 8:13:00 PM","Sinistrahd","wonder if tagferret is gonna show up today..."
"5/5/2005 8:13:06 PM","johnfalto","be back soon - need to walk the garbage and take out the dog!!!"
"5/5/2005 8:13:10 PM","Pilot","James...shoot me the link to your site plz"
"5/5/2005 8:13:16 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, 225, and you can only use the controller on THAT game"
"5/5/2005 8:13:22 PM","o1knives","Got to run do something.  Be back in a minute"
"5/5/2005 8:13:29 PM","Sinistrahd","www.nucleardawn.us"
"5/5/2005 8:13:32 PM","DaveAudio","just click on the LTTO link on the top of this page pilot"
"5/5/2005 8:13:32 PM","Pilot","thx"
"5/5/2005 8:13:39 PM","klaczak","how big is the area when playing a zone game?"
"5/5/2005 8:13:40 PM","Sinistrahd","btw pilot do you have an IM name?"
"5/5/2005 8:13:44 PM","Pilot","tried...not working"
"5/5/2005 8:13:47 PM","Sinistrahd","depends"
"5/5/2005 8:13:49 PM","DaveAudio","He is one of the main links on that page and it won't......."
"5/5/2005 8:13:49 PM","Pilot","no IM"
"5/5/2005 8:13:55 PM","DaveAudio","kick you off the board :)"
"5/5/2005 8:14:11 PM","Sinistrahd","on indoor mode about 15-20 feet"
"5/5/2005 8:14:17 PM","Sinistrahd","on outdoor about 30-35"
"5/5/2005 8:14:26 PM","DaveAudio","I think the max radius of a zone game is about 30'"
"5/5/2005 8:14:32 PM","Sinistrahd","my site works for me"
"5/5/2005 8:14:38 PM","klaczak","so u can choose the area?"
"5/5/2005 8:14:42 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:14:49 PM","klaczak","and it has a 30 foot radius?"
"5/5/2005 8:14:54 PM","Sinistrahd","plus if you put up walls it can be made smaller"
"5/5/2005 8:15:04 PM","klaczak","thats really cool, thx"
"5/5/2005 8:15:06 PM","Sinistrahd","we put the respawn zone in a dorm room for my games"
"5/5/2005 8:15:15 PM","Sinistrahd","oh yeah, klaczak"
"5/5/2005 8:15:26 PM","Sinistrahd","you'll probably want some of each type of ltto"
"5/5/2005 8:15:33 PM","DaveAudio","Hey James, are you going to be on for a bit?"
"5/5/2005 8:15:38 PM","Sinistrahd","the IRT has respawn and tagmaster games"
"5/5/2005 8:15:41 PM","Pilot","James, is your Dune pic on the site?"
"5/5/2005 8:15:42 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:15:46 PM","Sinistrahd","oh"
"5/5/2005 8:15:47 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm"
"5/5/2005 8:15:55 PM","DaveAudio","mind holding down the fort for 30mins so I can drive home?"
"5/5/2005 8:16:04 PM","Sinistrahd","www.nucleardawn.us/images/sigs/sinsig.jpg"
"5/5/2005 8:16:09 PM","Sinistrahd","small version"
"5/5/2005 8:16:12 PM","Sinistrahd","sure Dave"
"5/5/2005 8:16:22 PM","DaveAudio","okay......thanks,.......bb in about 30 mins"
"5/5/2005 8:16:25 PM","Sinistrahd","I can send you a full size version if you want"
"5/5/2005 8:16:35 PM","klaczak","sinistrahd...do u have AIM?"
"5/5/2005 8:16:36 PM","Sinistrahd","you mean the fremen body armor thing right?"
"5/5/2005 8:16:39 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:16:40 PM","Pilot","thx...send away"
"5/5/2005 8:16:43 PM","Sinistrahd","I use trillian"
"5/5/2005 8:16:54 PM","klaczak","u mind giving me ur sn?"
"5/5/2005 8:17:15 PM","Sinistrahd","laseralucard"
"5/5/2005 8:17:25 PM","klaczak","sweet"
"5/5/2005 8:17:35 PM","Sinistrahd","pilot whats your email?"
"5/5/2005 8:17:53 PM","Pilot","cong_lao@yahoo.com"
"5/5/2005 8:18:20 PM","Pilot","when do you need to be here for the con?"
"5/5/2005 8:18:46 PM","Sinistrahd","by friday whenever it opens I guess"
"5/5/2005 8:19:00 PM","Pilot","for how long?  Starting date?"
"5/5/2005 8:19:01 PM","Sinistrahd","I have me and Steve and possibly a third person"
"5/5/2005 8:19:11 PM","Sinistrahd","June 10-12"
"5/5/2005 8:20:00 PM","Pilot","call my cell and we'll chat..the g/f will be out of town that weekend"
"5/5/2005 8:20:13 PM","Pilot","478-952-3931"
"5/5/2005 8:20:27 PM","Sinistrahd","lemme program that in now"
"5/5/2005 8:20:40 PM","Sinistrahd","you want to chat closer to the con I take it?"
"5/5/2005 8:21:16 PM","Pilot","just need to talk before I let a stranger stay at my house...get it"
"5/5/2005 8:22:30 PM","Pilot","whenever is fine...just not before noon"
"5/5/2005 8:23:19 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, thats cool"
"5/5/2005 8:23:52 PM","Sinistrahd","I can also pay some rent or whatever, I was already gonna be spending a half a fortune on a room"
"5/5/2005 8:25:35 PM","Sinistrahd","brb"
"5/5/2005 8:26:42 PM","Sinistrahd","back...  say, Pilot, you've met Adrian, he's pretty cool I take it?"
"5/5/2005 8:27:00 PM","Sinistrahd","I'm also leery about the first time meeting a person being a 1500 mile trip"
"5/5/2005 8:27:07 PM","Pilot","well work it out"
"5/5/2005 8:27:12 PM","Sinistrahd","but I know people who can vouch for you"
"5/5/2005 8:27:18 PM","Pilot","he's cool, yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:27:48 PM","Pilot","I always put ppl up when they visit, its cool"
"5/5/2005 8:27:54 PM","Pilot","ask Falto"
"5/5/2005 8:28:20 PM","Sinistrahd","he's my main reference point to know that you're a safe person down there :p"
"5/5/2005 8:28:30 PM","Pilot","cool"
"5/5/2005 8:28:48 PM","Sinistrahd","its ok though, one of my friends almostdrove to florida by himself to meet his internet girlfriend"
"5/5/2005 8:28:53 PM","Sinistrahd","never met her in person before"
"5/5/2005 8:28:58 PM","Sinistrahd","we talked him out of it"
"5/5/2005 8:29:01 PM","Pilot","good"
"5/5/2005 8:29:18 PM","Sinistrahd","she may be coming to see him while he's at the con though"
"5/5/2005 8:29:28 PM","Pilot","stupid...whatever"
"5/5/2005 8:29:35 PM","Sinistrahd","but if she's nuts I won't lead her back to you, we'll just go to the con officials"
"5/5/2005 8:30:02 PM","Pilot","that's smart"
"5/5/2005 8:30:11 PM","Sinistrahd","she also may come visit in illinois this month"
"5/5/2005 8:30:21 PM","Pilot","her dime, right?"
"5/5/2005 8:30:22 PM","Sinistrahd","which would definitely be the better resolution"
"5/5/2005 8:30:24 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:30:29 PM","Pilot","then let her"
"5/5/2005 8:30:48 PM","Pilot","I've just been told not to flirt with you"
"5/5/2005 8:31:00 PM","Sinistrahd","huh?"
"5/5/2005 8:31:02 PM","Pilot","this is Pilot's g/f"
"5/5/2005 8:31:08 PM","Sinistrahd","oh, ok"
"5/5/2005 8:31:10 PM","Pilot","I've been typing for him"
"5/5/2005 8:31:14 PM","Pilot","scared ya, huh?"
"5/5/2005 8:31:18 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:31:19 PM","Pilot","lol"
"5/5/2005 8:32:08 PM","Sinistrahd","oh how I wish Brian was showing up today"
"5/5/2005 8:32:13 PM","Pilot","what Steel Battlelion games you own?"
"5/5/2005 8:32:16 PM","Sinistrahd","I have questions about the gear"
"5/5/2005 8:32:20 PM","Sinistrahd","the original one"
"5/5/2005 8:32:24 PM","Pilot","damn"
"5/5/2005 8:32:27 PM","Sinistrahd","I need to nab the sequel on ebay"
"5/5/2005 8:32:33 PM","Pilot","me too"
"5/5/2005 8:32:41 PM","Sinistrahd","then there will be 2 games the controller works for"
"5/5/2005 8:32:46 PM","Pilot","you know its on-line only, right?"
"5/5/2005 8:32:55 PM","Sinistrahd","y'know I should make a SB to USB controller converter"
"5/5/2005 8:33:06 PM","Sinistrahd","imagine using that thing for a real PC FPS"
"5/5/2005 8:33:10 PM","Sinistrahd","it is?"
"5/5/2005 8:33:14 PM","Pilot","yep"
"5/5/2005 8:33:21 PM","Sinistrahd","well, guess Imma only have the first one"
"5/5/2005 8:33:34 PM","Pilot","yeah...got that one too"
"5/5/2005 8:33:36 PM","Sinistrahd","I'm gonna try to get this chat back onto lazer tag now I guess"
"5/5/2005 8:33:45 PM","Pilot","are there others here?"
"5/5/2005 8:34:00 PM","Sinistrahd","looks like it from here"
"5/5/2005 8:34:16 PM","Sinistrahd","do you not have other people showing up on your side?"
"5/5/2005 8:34:21 PM","Pilot","something about scenarios and larping"
"5/5/2005 8:34:22 PM","Sinistrahd","sometimes java can be weird"
"5/5/2005 8:34:31 PM","Pilot","nah..they're there"
"5/5/2005 8:34:48 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah, so you guys do storylines that persist between game sessions?"
"5/5/2005 8:34:59 PM","Pilot","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:35:10 PM","Pilot","u mean on-going storylines?"
"5/5/2005 8:35:19 PM","Sinistrahd","I wish my players had the commitment for that"
"5/5/2005 8:35:21 PM","Sinistrahd","yeah"
"5/5/2005 8:35:34 PM","Sinistrahd","My LARP attempts have to be something I can set up quick"
"5/5/2005 8:35:38 PM","Pilot","yeah...longest one went 3 months"
"5/5/2005 8:35:44 PM","Pilot","Star Wars theme"
"5/5/2005 8:35:46 PM","Sinistrahd","especially when I play games away from the University"
"5/5/2005 8:36:09 PM","Pilot","our Halloween game continues every year...this will be year 4"
"5/5/2005 8:36:14 PM","cathie","on the news tonight"
"5/5/2005 8:36:21 PM","Sinistrahd","the players I've had here were horrible, they just wanted LTAG"
"5/5/2005 8:36:23 PM","cathie","At brings recycling in Eugene Oregon"
"5/5/2005 8:36:28 PM","Sinistrahd","didnt even want to learn how to join"
"5/5/2005 8:36:35 PM","Sinistrahd","and they didnt want to use the whole park"
"5/5/2005 8:36:42 PM","cathie","While going through their sorting process they had found a www1 bomb"
"5/5/2005 8:36:42 PM","Pilot","lazy bums"
"5/5/2005 8:36:47 PM","Sinistrahd","just a small 500 foot square area with barely any cover"
"5/5/2005 8:36:55 PM","Sinistrahd","Hi Cathie"
"5/5/2005 8:36:58 PM","cathie","The bomb squad had used robots to move the bomb to safety and the roads were closed until the bomb was"
"5/5/2005 8:37:08 PM","cathie","transported to safety where it has now been destroyed"
"5/5/2005 8:37:13 PM","Pilot","wow"
"5/5/2005 8:37:19 PM","Sinistrahd","where was that"
"5/5/2005 8:37:23 PM","Pilot","Oregon"
"5/5/2005 8:37:39 PM","Pilot","welcome"
"5/5/2005 8:37:41 PM","Sinistrahd","didnt see that part"
"5/5/2005 8:37:45 PM","Sinistrahd","hi Brian"
"5/5/2005 8:37:45 PM","TagFerret","Greetings All!"
"5/5/2005 8:37:56 PM","Sinistrahd","question for you"
"5/5/2005 8:38:03 PM","TagFerret","Shoot"
"5/5/2005 8:38:07 PM","Sinistrahd","remember my Scenario idea from last week?"
"5/5/2005 8:38:18 PM","Sinistrahd","with multiple tagm games set up"
"5/5/2005 8:38:29 PM","Sinistrahd","so that the player 1's were in competition"
"5/5/2005 8:38:30 PM","cathie","hello and goodbye now unitll i find something else to share"
"5/5/2005 8:38:44 PM","Sinistrahd","but the P2's go after them all equally?"
"5/5/2005 8:38:50 PM","TagFerret","It doesn't ring a bell but then I'm tired... refresh my memory"
"5/5/2005 8:38:55 PM","Sinistrahd","hehe"
"5/5/2005 8:39:04 PM","Sinistrahd","I need to get this in a text file to paste from"
"5/5/2005 8:39:07 PM","Sinistrahd","or post it"
"5/5/2005 8:39:17 PM","Sinistrahd","dorm building, multiple floors"
"5/5/2005 8:39:25 PM","Sinistrahd","going upwards collecting hint cards"
"5/5/2005 8:39:27 PM","Pilot","James...sounds more like a rule set than a scenario"
"5/5/2005 8:39:58 PM","TagFerret","So you have two TAGM's, and up to 16 Hunters, the Hunters are after all TAGM's and the TAGM's are after the hunters and each other?"
"5/5/2005 8:40:18 PM","Sinistrahd","well, the hunters arent necessarily numbered like that"
"5/5/2005 8:40:24 PM","Sinistrahd","here's my question"
"5/5/2005 8:40:39 PM","Sinistrahd","can I set up the players to have their stats and 99 minutes"
"5/5/2005 8:40:53 PM","Sinistrahd","and then keep rehosting the hunters with new stats every floor"
"5/5/2005 8:41:01 PM","Sinistrahd","or will the games not see eahc other?"
"5/5/2005 8:41:48 PM","TagFerret","Well, tags will cross games.  That is to say, only Team and Player number are passed in each shot."
"5/5/2005 8:41:52 PM","Sinistrahd","and as to if its a scenario or a rule set, I guess that could be, but theres no incentive to hunt the guards"
"5/5/2005 8:41:57 PM","Sinistrahd","ok"
"5/5/2005 8:42:02 PM","Sinistrahd","I dont need scoring"
"5/5/2005 8:42:07 PM","TagFerret","But hosting/joining/debriefing and medic modes don't cross games."
"5/5/2005 8:42:08 PM","Sinistrahd","the cards are the score"
"5/5/2005 8:43:14 PM","Sinistrahd","ah, no medpacks then"
"5/5/2005 8:43:30 PM","Sinistrahd","only way to heal is to hide a new t1p1 gun somewhere to be found"
"5/5/2005 8:44:12 PM","TagFerret","As long as you don't need scoring, you should be able to host ANY team game, and all the players on Team 2 will be hostile to the TAGM from the first game.  Players on Team 2 of each game will be able to pass medic assists, but not between them and the Team 2 players from a different game."
"5/5/2005 8:44:43 PM","Sinistrahd","theoretically, if someone completely figured out the hosting protocol, could games be set up using a pda or laptop so different players had different ammo and stuff?"
"5/5/2005 8:45:05 PM","Sinistrahd","cool, though I don't think I want the players to have to face an uber-guard with limited ammo :P"
"5/5/2005 8:45:44 PM","o1knives","I'm back for a bit"
"5/5/2005 8:45:49 PM","TagFerret","Theoretically, yes, but it is tricky.  You would need to leave all guns in their Main Menu while not actually joining, then change the game parameters (but not the game ID), and let the next one hear the game and join it, and so on."
"5/5/2005 8:46:02 PM","Sinistrahd","this game is actually loosely based on something from boot camp and shadowrun (yep, shadowrun again...)"
"5/5/2005 8:46:39 PM","Sinistrahd","wb knives"
"5/5/2005 8:46:46 PM","Sinistrahd","is that based on Trigun btw?"
"5/5/2005 8:47:08 PM","o1knives","If that was directed at me, then no."
"5/5/2005 8:47:15 PM","Sinistrahd","ah"
"5/5/2005 8:47:33 PM","o1knives","o1 is a type of hi-carbon steel that I like to make custom knives out of."
"5/5/2005 8:47:48 PM","o1knives","(When I'm not in the academic world I like to do primative blacksmithing.)"
"5/5/2005 8:48:03 PM","Sinistrahd","sounds like an expensive hobby to be able to pursue"
"5/5/2005 8:48:13 PM","o1knives","Not really."
"5/5/2005 8:48:24 PM","o1knives","You can make a forge for under $100US."
"5/5/2005 8:48:31 PM","o1knives","And steel is quite cheap."
"5/5/2005 8:48:34 PM","Pilot","way under"
"5/5/2005 8:48:47 PM","o1knives","Most expensive thing about it is an anvil."
"5/5/2005 8:48:58 PM","Sinistrahd","never really looked into it"
"5/5/2005 8:48:58 PM","Pilot","not tru.."
"5/5/2005 8:49:05 PM","Pilot","use a railroad tie"
"5/5/2005 8:49:19 PM","o1knives","Yeah, $100 is for a decent commercial firepot and blower new."
"5/5/2005 8:49:43 PM","o1knives","I've tried a piece of railroad rail.  It doesn't work anywhere near as well as a real anvil."
"5/5/2005 8:49:57 PM","o1knives","But if you have some time to shape it with an angle grinder you can make one for not to much."
"5/5/2005 8:50:05 PM","o1knives","Just depends on how much time you want to spend on it."
"5/5/2005 8:50:13 PM","Pilot","tru"
"5/5/2005 8:50:30 PM","Pilot","k...take care guys"
"5/5/2005 8:50:33 PM","Pilot","gotta go"
"5/5/2005 8:50:40 PM","Sinistrahd","ttyl"
"5/5/2005 8:50:40 PM","o1knives","See ya"
"5/5/2005 8:50:42 PM","TagFerret","see you, Pilot -- take care"
"5/5/2005 8:51:18 PM","o1knives","So, does anyone have ideas about how to get people to stop merely blasting eachother and start playing a more complicated game?"
"5/5/2005 8:51:26 PM","o1knives","'cause that seems to be a common problem"
"5/5/2005 8:52:02 PM","TagFerret","Scenario games -- make an objective, and score the game based on opbjectives rather than on the points tallied in the gear or the survival times."
"5/5/2005 8:52:15 PM","TagFerret","Also eliminate respawning, makes people get more serious about it."
"5/5/2005 8:52:24 PM","TagFerret","Everyone hates waiting in the dead zone..."
"5/5/2005 8:52:50 PM","o1knives","Hadn't thought about that first one."
"5/5/2005 8:53:22 PM","Sinistrahd","respawning can be good in some cases"
"5/5/2005 8:53:50 PM","Sinistrahd","but only if the objective is uber-hard like the steel battalion game"
"5/5/2005 8:54:22 PM","Sinistrahd","or you can make a respawn game and just set it up like this:"
"5/5/2005 8:54:33 PM","Sinistrahd","99 Tags, unlimited ammo etc"
"5/5/2005 8:54:46 PM","Sinistrahd","then the PCs are out if they get Neutralized"
"5/5/2005 8:55:09 PM","Sinistrahd","but the NPCs can respawn and move further along the battleground to engage the players again"
"5/5/2005 8:55:30 PM","o1knives","That's a good idea"
"5/5/2005 8:55:33 PM","Sinistrahd","that'd be more like a "hack and slash" type game"
"5/5/2005 8:55:46 PM","Sinistrahd","hello...  LB?"
"5/5/2005 8:55:47 PM","o1knives","Howde"
"5/5/2005 8:56:04 PM","Sinistrahd",":P"
"5/5/2005 8:56:17 PM","TagFerret","Greetings, Jonny"
"5/5/2005 8:56:29 PM","Sinistrahd","ah, Andy"
"5/5/2005 8:56:29 PM","TagFerret","Hi PartyTagger"
"5/5/2005 8:56:35 PM","Sinistrahd","and partytagger"
"5/5/2005 8:56:37 PM","Jonny come Lately","Hello, All"
"5/5/2005 8:56:41 PM","Sinistrahd","Dave will return shortly"
"5/5/2005 8:56:49 PM","Sinistrahd","he's on his way home"
"5/5/2005 8:56:53 PM","partytagger","Hi everyone"
"5/5/2005 8:56:54 PM","Jonny come Lately","So how has the conversation gone, so Far?"
"5/5/2005 8:56:57 PM","Sinistrahd","woah"
"5/5/2005 8:56:58 PM","Sinistrahd","eerie"
"5/5/2005 8:57:02 PM","Sinistrahd","it happened again"
"5/5/2005 8:57:10 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm"
"5/5/2005 8:57:13 PM","TagFerret","You psycho or something, James?"
"5/5/2005 8:57:18 PM","Sinistrahd","Jeff Popper will arrive soon?"
"5/5/2005 8:57:21 PM","SparkySU1","Hello all"
"5/5/2005 8:57:29 PM","TagFerret","Hi Dave"
"5/5/2005 8:57:34 PM","Sinistrahd","I keep predicting people coming in just before they arrive"
"5/5/2005 8:58:06 PM","Sinistrahd","well Andy, it's been somewhat limited"
"5/5/2005 8:58:14 PM","Sinistrahd","we got over basic definitions"
"5/5/2005 8:58:15 PM","SparkySU1","And you knew what I was pondering earlier......you must be in touch with your phycick self! :)"
"5/5/2005 8:58:23 PM","Sinistrahd","lol"
"5/5/2005 8:58:32 PM","Sinistrahd","and then laid out some game ideas"
"5/5/2005 8:58:35 PM","SparkySU1","Tag Ferret!"
"5/5/2005 8:58:44 PM","TagFerret","Where?"
"5/5/2005 8:58:50 PM","TagFerret","lol"
"5/5/2005 8:58:59 PM","TagFerret","Shoot it!"
"5/5/2005 8:58:59 PM","Sinistrahd","but then we were trying to figure out how to get players to pay attention long enough to get a scenario or LARP running"
"5/5/2005 8:59:03 PM","SparkySU1","look in za mirror!"
"5/5/2005 8:59:33 PM","Sinistrahd","since even sometimes while I'm hosting people will get into ltag battles"
"5/5/2005 8:59:38 PM","SparkySU1","but don't shoot it...........thaz 7 years bad luck!"
"5/5/2005 8:59:45 PM","Sinistrahd","though they stop quick enough when its time to join"
"5/5/2005 9:00:01 PM","SparkySU1","yes, that is a good question..........how to keep people's attention during setup"
"5/5/2005 9:00:05 PM","TagFerret","Yeah, it is important to have the LARP/Scenario explained quickly before people start losing interest."
"5/5/2005 9:00:07 PM","Dave","Hi There!b"
"5/5/2005 9:00:08 PM","Sinistrahd","although that darn www.lazertag.com thing slows us up a bit then too...  darn marketing guys"
"5/5/2005 9:00:08 PM","o1knives","Oh what I would give for an RF switch that would inactivate all taggers on the field!"
"5/5/2005 9:00:17 PM","SparkySU1","SW Dave?"
"5/5/2005 9:00:21 PM","Dave","nuttin much"
"5/5/2005 9:00:25 PM","Dave","i had a few questions"
"5/5/2005 9:00:33 PM","Jonny come Lately","One thing we have done at TagCon is use a quick Inro, then breif the players as we move out to our starting positions"
"5/5/2005 9:00:42 PM","Dave","I currently work, and my father will soon be owning a Laser Tag Place"
"5/5/2005 9:00:44 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm"
"5/5/2005 9:00:56 PM","TagFerret","Cool!"
"5/5/2005 9:00:57 PM","Sinistrahd","I was thinking of integrating a powerpoint briefing into the game"
"5/5/2005 9:00:59 PM","SparkySU1","must be nice!"
"5/5/2005 9:01:04 PM","Sinistrahd","(I have a projector)"
"5/5/2005 9:01:10 PM","Dave","The place we are looking at buying has the Old, but reliable, Laser Storm"
"5/5/2005 9:01:16 PM","o1knives","That would probably keep people's attention"
"5/5/2005 9:01:19 PM","Jonny come Lately","I ahve a laptop"
"5/5/2005 9:01:22 PM","Dave","and want to look at the smart card"
"5/5/2005 9:01:26 PM","SparkySU1","I was thinking of making a full blown actor with costume and props video for briefing games"
"5/5/2005 9:01:36 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm"
"5/5/2005 9:01:38 PM","SparkySU1","EWWWWWWWWWWWWW..........Laser Storm"
"5/5/2005 9:01:38 PM","Sinistrahd","good idea"
"5/5/2005 9:01:41 PM","partytagger","Bright sunlight limits their effectivness"
"5/5/2005 9:01:49 PM","Sinistrahd","treat it like a live transmission"
"5/5/2005 9:01:56 PM","Dave","hey, we got a good price, and are attracting birthday parties"
"5/5/2005 9:02:02 PM","Jonny come Lately","I have tried doing costume, and it adds a lot!"
"5/5/2005 9:02:02 PM","Dave","not walkins"
"5/5/2005 9:02:04 PM","Dave","they are a bonus"
"5/5/2005 9:02:08 PM","Sinistrahd","its indoor though"
"5/5/2005 9:02:11 PM","Dave","but does anyone know where we can find one?"
"5/5/2005 9:02:15 PM","Sinistrahd","they dont wory about sunlight"
"5/5/2005 9:02:31 PM","SparkySU1","hehehe........sorry Dave, Laser storm was a rival when I was into LT Arena's, its habit :)"
"5/5/2005 9:02:35 PM","partytagger","I was talking about the projector for powerpoint"
"5/5/2005 9:02:55 PM","SparkySU1","find one what Dave?"
"5/5/2005 9:03:00 PM","Sinistrahd","oh"
"5/5/2005 9:03:06 PM","SparkySU1","<---- not paying attention again"
"5/5/2005 9:03:11 PM","Jonny come Lately","CRT's work OK in Sunlight.  The place we used for TagCon in Lafayette had a shelter"
"5/5/2005 9:03:17 PM","Sinistrahd","smart cards I dunno whats required to read those"
"5/5/2005 9:03:18 PM","Dave","Finding Laser Storm Smart Card"
"5/5/2005 9:03:26 PM","Dave","yea"
"5/5/2005 9:03:27 PM","Sinistrahd","I'd do the briefing indoors"
"5/5/2005 9:03:29 PM","Dave","it is capable"
"5/5/2005 9:03:30 PM","o1knives","How many conversations do we have going on concurently?"
"5/5/2005 9:03:34 PM","Dave","i just dont where to find one"
"5/5/2005 9:03:47 PM","Jonny come Lately","Under a conaopy should suffice rather than full indoors"
"5/5/2005 9:03:47 PM","Flux","wow. look at the turnout."
"5/5/2005 9:03:48 PM","SparkySU1","Ah.I would check over at ILTA"
"5/5/2005 9:03:50 PM","Sinistrahd","we almost always have an indoors area to meet in prior to games in my gaming areas"
"5/5/2005 9:04:03 PM","TagFerret","lol @ knives, was trying to follow them all myself and getting confused!"
"5/5/2005 9:04:12 PM","Sinistrahd","gotta multitask!"
"5/5/2005 9:04:22 PM","Dave","ok"
"5/5/2005 9:04:29 PM","Dave","and do we have any other Indoor Opeartors here?"
"5/5/2005 9:04:30 PM","SparkySU1","This session is more of a hobbyist session"
"5/5/2005 9:04:33 PM","TagFerret","I can't even single-task anymore...."
"5/5/2005 9:04:42 PM","Dave","I actually play myself a ton"
"5/5/2005 9:04:42 PM","Jonny come Lately","HAving a short briefing for everyone, then a team specific briefing while you walk works well."
"5/5/2005 9:04:48 PM","SparkySU1","Not for tonight's session"
"5/5/2005 9:04:55 PM","Dave","ok"
"5/5/2005 9:04:56 PM","o1knives","Me, I'm already trying to finish my personal statement, study for an abstract algebra exam and chat at the same time."
"5/5/2005 9:04:58 PM","Sinistrahd","here Dave: http://lasertag.org/"
"5/5/2005 9:04:59 PM","SparkySU1","this is outdoor tag with consumer grade gear"
"5/5/2005 9:05:02 PM","o1knives","I can't more than triple task"
"5/5/2005 9:05:02 PM","Jonny come Lately","I have considered handout, but lots of people have trouble reading and walking"
"5/5/2005 9:05:06 PM","Dave","i already took a look there"
"5/5/2005 9:05:06 PM","SparkySU1","but you can get great ideas here"
"5/5/2005 9:05:14 PM","Dave","ok"
"5/5/2005 9:05:17 PM","Dave","question for you all"
"5/5/2005 9:05:23 PM","Dave","If there were 2 laser tag places"
"5/5/2005 9:05:26 PM","Dave","right next store to each other"
"5/5/2005 9:05:31 PM","Dave","both running the same system"
"5/5/2005 9:05:39 PM","o1knives","Plus handouts cost quite a bit in the printing department."
"5/5/2005 9:05:42 PM","Dave","and the exact same arenas atmosphere whatever"
"5/5/2005 9:05:44 PM","SparkySU1","I would suggest leaving ILTA an email with a question, they might know someone who can help you out on the smart card"
"5/5/2005 9:05:52 PM","Dave","what would make you go to one and not the other"
"5/5/2005 9:06:00 PM","Dave","sending email now"
"5/5/2005 9:06:10 PM","Jonny come Lately","Keep ypour handout one page or less and monochrome."
"5/5/2005 9:06:15 PM","TagFerret","Dave: The people.  Nothing worse than young punks with attitude problems."
"5/5/2005 9:06:16 PM","Sinistrahd","I'd have to say the looks on people's faces as they left"
"5/5/2005 9:06:23 PM","SparkySU1","I'd go into both and see which one people were having more fun in"
"5/5/2005 9:06:31 PM","Jonny come Lately","If it doesn't fit on a 1/2 page, its too much for them to take in, anyway."
"5/5/2005 9:06:48 PM","Sinistrahd","I have an idea Andy"
"5/5/2005 9:06:51 PM","o1knives","Yeah.  I think video on a CRT would work best."
"5/5/2005 9:06:52 PM","Sinistrahd","no paper needed"
"5/5/2005 9:06:58 PM","Jonny come Lately","?"
"5/5/2005 9:06:58 PM","Sinistrahd","nor video even"
"5/5/2005 9:07:06 PM","Jonny come Lately","Audio?"
"5/5/2005 9:07:08 PM","o1knives","For some reason, people pay attention to TV's and such."
"5/5/2005 9:07:08 PM","Dave","i meant as a promotinal sence"
"5/5/2005 9:07:13 PM","Sinistrahd","have an actor "off-stage" who talks on the 2 teams channels"
"5/5/2005 9:07:15 PM","Dave","the faces"
"5/5/2005 9:07:17 PM","Dave","is a good idea"
"5/5/2005 9:07:19 PM","Sinistrahd","he/she introduces the plot"
"5/5/2005 9:07:22 PM","Sinistrahd","and goals"
"5/5/2005 9:08:02 PM","Sinistrahd","that way you can get some emotion in without cheesy acting"
"5/5/2005 9:08:12 PM","Sinistrahd","and if something bad happens you can lose comms"
"5/5/2005 9:08:55 PM","TagFerret","Dave:  Another thing is to have somebody who can go through it with the new players, teach them tactics and such, so they stand a chance.  Nobody (realistically) expects to take first place their first time, but at least standing a chance to make SOME sort of showing for yourself helps a lot of people want to come back for a second crack at it."
"5/5/2005 9:09:04 PM","Jonny come Lately","That could be a good setup, but comms are difficult to hear soemtimes, and there no feedback to the briefer"
"5/5/2005 9:09:25 PM","TagFerret","So maybe something like a free "Tag Academy" to get the new players familiar with the gear and games."
"5/5/2005 9:09:28 PM","Sinistrahd","well its FRS most of us use"
"5/5/2005 9:09:32 PM","Sinistrahd","so there can be feedback"
"5/5/2005 9:09:45 PM","Jonny come Lately","Not without intterupting the speaker"
"5/5/2005 9:09:56 PM","Jonny come Lately","Who can't hear while he/she talks"
"5/5/2005 9:10:03 PM","Sinistrahd","it can be scripted between the "actor" and the team leaders"
"5/5/2005 9:10:10 PM","Sinistrahd","a dialog"
"5/5/2005 9:10:14 PM","Jonny come Lately","That could work"
"5/5/2005 9:10:16 PM","Sinistrahd","that way the leader sees reaction"
"5/5/2005 9:10:28 PM","Sinistrahd","and then sends their interpretation of that back"
"5/5/2005 9:10:49 PM","Sinistrahd","to give a more dynamic feel instead of a locked plot"
"5/5/2005 9:10:58 PM","Sinistrahd","which I've read is very important"
"5/5/2005 9:11:03 PM","Jonny come Lately","it is!"
"5/5/2005 9:11:11 PM","Sinistrahd","because players will always find something to do you didnt plan for"
"5/5/2005 9:11:18 PM","Flux","oh yeah, this is the LARPS chat. hehe. I'm like "huh? wha?""
"5/5/2005 9:11:24 PM","Sinistrahd","heh"
"5/5/2005 9:11:36 PM","Sinistrahd","the helmet suits that comment :P"
"5/5/2005 9:11:48 PM","Sinistrahd","reminds me of H2G2"
"5/5/2005 9:11:53 PM","Flux",":P"
"5/5/2005 9:12:06 PM","Sinistrahd","ooh"
"5/5/2005 9:12:12 PM","Sinistrahd","thats a good thing not to forget"
"5/5/2005 9:12:14 PM","Flux","my Starhelmet reminds you of h2g2?"
"5/5/2005 9:12:16 PM","SparkySU1","I was thinking along the lines of games like Command and Conquer"
"5/5/2005 9:12:26 PM","TagFerret","I think what Andy said, having team laeaders who already know the scenario and can fill in the holes from the briefing as you walk to the starting positions is probably the single best thing you could do for a LARP/Scenario game.  It adds a couple things -- (1) less time listening to the intro, (2) multitasking your time walking and learning, and (3) by definition imposes a time limit 'cuz the game is going to start on schedule whether you have a grip on it or not."
"5/5/2005 9:12:32 PM","o1knives",""If this is not the flight you were expecting, please talk to a flight attendent now.""
"5/5/2005 9:12:33 PM","SparkySU1","where they have the briefing at the beginning of each scenario"
"5/5/2005 9:12:57 PM","SparkySU1","I agree with TagFerret"
"5/5/2005 9:13:00 PM","Sinistrahd","when we start doing longer scenarios, there needs to be some humor and lightheartedness interjected in"
"5/5/2005 9:13:08 PM","Jonny come Lately","That also allows different goals for each team"
"5/5/2005 9:13:10 PM","Sinistrahd","so that the games dont turn into work"
"5/5/2005 9:13:10 PM","SparkySU1","exactly"
"5/5/2005 9:13:11 PM","o1knives","Yeah, that's a good summarization"
"5/5/2005 9:13:23 PM","SparkySU1","the videos on those games were almost as fun as the game"
"5/5/2005 9:13:37 PM","Sinistrahd","I just think that the players would almost need some outside stimulus"
"5/5/2005 9:13:39 PM","SparkySU1","found myself playing into the wee hours of the morning, just to see the next video"
"5/5/2005 9:13:46 PM","o1knives","Same here!"
"5/5/2005 9:13:48 PM","Sinistrahd","which I do not count the team leader as being"
"5/5/2005 9:14:13 PM","Flux","what video is this?"
"5/5/2005 9:14:13 PM","Jonny come Lately","What you are saying, James is actually the same thing"
"5/5/2005 9:14:34 PM","Sinistrahd","flux, the starhelmet reminds me of the lemon cap on Zaphod"
"5/5/2005 9:14:35 PM","SparkySU1","A couple role playing actors embedded into each group would be great too, especially if they are costumed"
"5/5/2005 9:14:47 PM","SparkySU1","Command and Conquer...."
"5/5/2005 9:14:52 PM","Jonny come Lately","But you are having an intereactive show in front tof the players vs. a monolog"
"5/5/2005 9:14:55 PM","Flux","ah. haven't seen the new (atrocious looking) movie"
"5/5/2005 9:15:01 PM","Jonny come Lately","& Qand A"
"5/5/2005 9:15:07 PM","Sinistrahd","its great"
"5/5/2005 9:15:09 PM","o1knives","So, how large of a group of players are we talking about?"
"5/5/2005 9:15:14 PM","Sinistrahd","theres a cameo by the old Marvin"
"5/5/2005 9:15:27 PM","Sinistrahd","I'd say at least 6 knives"
"5/5/2005 9:15:31 PM","Flux","cool"
"5/5/2005 9:15:35 PM","Jonny come Lately","I liked the Hitchhiker movie, too!:-)"
"5/5/2005 9:15:39 PM","Sinistrahd","not counting the people running the show"
"5/5/2005 9:16:03 PM","Jonny come Lately","I concur with James 5-6 minimum per team"
"5/5/2005 9:16:29 PM","o1knives","So, couldn't pull something like this with twelve people total, right?"
"5/5/2005 9:16:36 PM","o1knives","Fifteen would really be about the minimum."
"5/5/2005 9:16:37 PM","Sinistrahd","and they need to be experienced players, or at least 2 out of 3 should be"
"5/5/2005 9:17:01 PM","Jonny come Lately","You can, but you have to have people running the game embedded as players, and unaware of the total plot"
"5/5/2005 9:17:15 PM","SparkySU1","It would be a good idea to make the team leader a character, then at least they have a clue as to what they are doing"
"5/5/2005 9:17:19 PM","Sinistrahd","that way when someone cant figure out their gear you have an explainer and someone providing cover fire"
"5/5/2005 9:17:35 PM","o1knives","Um, so what happens when one of the embedded people gets killed?"
"5/5/2005 9:17:46 PM","SparkySU1","the team is screwed!"
"5/5/2005 9:17:49 PM","SparkySU1","er......"
"5/5/2005 9:17:50 PM","Jonny come Lately","Sparky, you can have a clue, but not be completely up to speed"
"5/5/2005 9:17:50 PM","Sinistrahd","then it gets interesting for the players"
"5/5/2005 9:18:04 PM","Sinistrahd","you get to see how well they can improvise"
"5/5/2005 9:18:18 PM","Jonny come Lately","So long as your embedded characters all have the same view of your role play "Universe" it tends to work out"
"5/5/2005 9:18:25 PM","SparkySU1","then the character becomes a ghost and helps them only in advise"
"5/5/2005 9:18:26 PM","TagFerret","Now, at TagFest we had a scenario game that would have been good for a lot of new players, if a couple things had been done slightly differently it would have come off very well indeed."
"5/5/2005 9:18:27 PM","Sinistrahd","and when actors die, they can always give an epitaph"
"5/5/2005 9:19:01 PM","Sinistrahd","saying what remains to be done"
"5/5/2005 9:19:04 PM","TagFerret","But it was hampered by long explanations and miscommunication, and team leaders who hadn't seen the scenario details until right at the start of the game."
"5/5/2005 9:19:10 PM","SparkySU1","yes, having embedded people knowing what was going on in the teams would have greatly smoothed out the TagFest LARP woes"
"5/5/2005 9:19:13 PM","Sinistrahd","that could lighten the mood, too"
"5/5/2005 9:19:22 PM","TagFerret","So I would say cover those two bases and you have a good game for inexperienced players."
"5/5/2005 9:19:24 PM","o1knives","Mind telling those of us who couldn't make it what it was?"
"5/5/2005 9:19:27 PM","Sinistrahd","I'm fading fast!  but you need to go to the cave...  urgh..."
"5/5/2005 9:19:34 PM","Sinistrahd","Wait I'm still alive!"
"5/5/2005 9:19:39 PM","Sinistrahd","then grab the parts..."
"5/5/2005 9:19:40 PM","Sinistrahd",":P"
"5/5/2005 9:19:43 PM","Jonny come Lately","Its just a flesh wound?"
"5/5/2005 9:19:53 PM","Jonny come Lately","Is he getting better?"
"5/5/2005 9:19:59 PM","SparkySU1","......I feel fine"
"5/5/2005 9:20:00 PM","Sinistrahd","nah, just one of those slow, lingering deaths"
"5/5/2005 9:20:07 PM","SparkySU1","you will be dead in a minute"
"5/5/2005 9:20:14 PM","SparkySU1","I think I 'll go for a walk..."
"5/5/2005 9:20:15 PM","Sinistrahd","or have a neutral medic who can pop in"
"5/5/2005 9:20:29 PM","SparkySU1","TagFest Games:"
"5/5/2005 9:20:33 PM","Jonny come Lately","I can be a good plot device to have to help the "injured" expert to the next plot point"
"5/5/2005 9:20:44 PM","SparkySU1","This is long, so I'll make it as short as possible"
"5/5/2005 9:20:53 PM","SparkySU1","2 teams of ugly aliens"
"5/5/2005 9:21:02 PM","SparkySU1","1 team of invisible aliens"
"5/5/2005 9:21:20 PM","SparkySU1","2 teams fighting over technology was background story line"
"5/5/2005 9:21:29 PM","SparkySU1","basically we played a VIP game"
"5/5/2005 9:21:45 PM","SparkySU1","followed by  a Secure the Site Game"
"5/5/2005 9:21:55 PM","SparkySU1","followed by a King of the Hill  game"
"5/5/2005 9:22:10 PM","SparkySU1","but there were different sub goals that were worth points"
"5/5/2005 9:22:30 PM","SparkySU1","such as holding on to the mag lev generator at the end of the game..."
"5/5/2005 9:22:36 PM","SparkySU1","or having control of a building"
"5/5/2005 9:22:52 PM","SparkySU1","........we also used chess clocks to determine who owned a building the longest"
"5/5/2005 9:22:56 PM","LazerBait","Sorry I am late guys"
"5/5/2005 9:23:01 PM","TagFerret","Hiya LB!"
"5/5/2005 9:23:06 PM","LazerBait","Hi TF"
"5/5/2005 9:23:07 PM","Sinistrahd","now LB :P"
"5/5/2005 9:23:14 PM","SparkySU1","......the problem was though that only one person knew anything about anything going on......"
"5/5/2005 9:23:16 PM","Sinistrahd","I thought Jonny Come Lately was you LB"
"5/5/2005 9:23:22 PM","LazerBait","nope"
"5/5/2005 9:23:39 PM","Sinistrahd","hmm, chess clocks"
"5/5/2005 9:23:40 PM","LazerBait","Oh that game"
"5/5/2005 9:23:42 PM","Jonny come Lately","I though I was an Hour late.  Must be the time change"
"5/5/2005 9:23:44 PM","SparkySU1","which was problematic because we had teenagers that interrupted the instructions constantly..and the teams had to be briefed seperately"
"5/5/2005 9:23:49 PM","Sinistrahd","thats a great idea"
"5/5/2005 9:24:08 PM","LazerBait","yeah I have not heard from WSDave at all"
"5/5/2005 9:24:13 PM","SparkySU1","..........which sucked for the second team as it gave the first team tons of time to set up while the second team was being briefed"
"5/5/2005 9:24:15 PM","o1knives","So how many people do you think should have been "insiders""
"5/5/2005 9:24:22 PM","LazerBait","I emailed him and no answer"
"5/5/2005 9:24:25 PM","SparkySU1","(WS Dave was here last week)"
"5/5/2005 9:24:55 PM","SparkySU1","......the briefing time became unbearable to those who realized we were quickly running out of tag time"
"5/5/2005 9:24:55 PM","Jonny come Lately","# of insiders depends on how familair the players are with the "universe""
"5/5/2005 9:25:12 PM","SparkySU1","..........then a ton of technical difficulties delayed things further"
"5/5/2005 9:25:12 PM","Jonny come Lately","Very Fewe for Star Ways, a whole lot for BattleTech"
"5/5/2005 9:25:37 PM","LazerBait","yeah next year we will do better Dave"
"5/5/2005 9:25:46 PM","o1knives","And what is their basic job description"
"5/5/2005 9:25:48 PM","SparkySU1","........poor Dave SW tried his best to bail the game out......but everyone was fed up with the delays and certain people were getting ready to leave TagFest over it"
"5/5/2005 9:25:55 PM","Sinistrahd","we're using this for a lessons learned type thing, LB"
"5/5/2005 9:25:58 PM","LazerBait","some did"
"5/5/2005 9:26:04 PM","SparkySU1","Next year will be MUCH better"
"5/5/2005 9:26:14 PM","SparkySU1","....as the event will actually be planned for once!"
"5/5/2005 9:26:17 PM","SparkySU1",":)"
"5/5/2005 9:26:24 PM","TagFerret","And, to the point of how to have it not just degenerate into a blast-fest,"
"5/5/2005 9:26:27 PM","Sinistrahd","ok, quick question off topic"
"5/5/2005 9:26:39 PM","Jonny come Lately",""insiders" help make sure players move along to the next plot point and stay insude the gaming "universe""
"5/5/2005 9:26:41 PM","Sinistrahd","LB, any word from Steve G on my gear?"
"5/5/2005 9:26:44 PM","o1knives","Strange, but that sounds more than slightly reminiscent of my last attempt at a themed game."
"5/5/2005 9:26:45 PM","TagFerret","I would say that the objectives of the other team should NOT be quite so easy to discern."
"5/5/2005 9:26:48 PM","SparkySU1","Considering Dave SW only had 2 weeks to design and prep, with no help whatsoever, I think he did a decent job"
"5/5/2005 9:26:53 PM","LazerBait","nope...I should call him soon"
"5/5/2005 9:27:10 PM","LazerBait","I have not had any routes down his way so I cannot drop by"
"5/5/2005 9:27:13 PM","Sinistrahd","he still hasnt responded to my messages or email"
"5/5/2005 9:27:29 PM","Sinistrahd","everyone here, quick warning"
"5/5/2005 9:27:29 PM","TagFerret","Still trying to get all your ESS gear back?"
"5/5/2005 9:27:36 PM","LazerBait","I have heard 0 from him in any forum"
"5/5/2005 9:27:42 PM","Sinistrahd","never entrust alienrelics@yahoo.com with any of your gear"
"5/5/2005 9:27:47 PM","Sinistrahd","yep"
"5/5/2005 9:27:49 PM","SparkySU1","lol........and whoeve r picks the teams, needs to know the individual players capabilities..........the game was EXTREMELY one sided"
"5/5/2005 9:28:03 PM","LazerBait","oh now Dave..."
"5/5/2005 9:28:03 PM","Jonny come Lately","We ran one part of TagCon 03 with the two team having goals that were not mutually exclusive - nobady had to do anything to or with the other team to meet thier goals"
"5/5/2005 9:28:05 PM","o1knives","Sound familier"
"5/5/2005 9:28:09 PM","SparkySU1","That is a shame James"
"5/5/2005 9:28:10 PM","TagFerret","Jeez, and I thought that would all get sorted out after he finally got back in touch with you.  Guess not..."
"5/5/2005 9:28:21 PM","Sinistrahd","yep.  He goes by polymorph too"
"5/5/2005 9:28:24 PM","Jonny come Lately","Some people felt cheated, though . . they come to shoot!"
"5/5/2005 9:28:33 PM","o1knives","How did that go?"
"5/5/2005 9:28:53 PM","o1knives","Did the teams find out what the others goals were eventually?"
"5/5/2005 9:28:55 PM","Flux","you guys are making me nervous about my game on Saturday. hehe"
"5/5/2005 9:28:59 PM","Sinistrahd","hi Khan"
"5/5/2005 9:29:00 PM","Khan Jal","Greetings."
"5/5/2005 9:29:00 PM","SparkySU1","Khan!!!"
"5/5/2005 9:29:09 PM","o1knives","'sup"
"5/5/2005 9:29:12 PM","LazerBait","why Flux? And what time BTW?"
"5/5/2005 9:29:15 PM","Jonny come Lately","Yes, when we debriefed at the end of the game"
"5/5/2005 9:29:16 PM","Sinistrahd","what kinda scenario you running?"
"5/5/2005 9:29:21 PM","TagFerret","Hi Khan Jal"
"5/5/2005 9:29:36 PM","SparkySU1","Flux, the key is to have mulitple people that know what is going on , instead of one person trying to run the whole show....that is a perscription for disaster..."
"5/5/2005 9:30:02 PM","Flux","yeah"
"5/5/2005 9:30:07 PM","Flux","mine's simple enough"
"5/5/2005 9:30:11 PM","Sinistrahd","and if your scenario is "evade the park ranger" don't even try it :p"
"5/5/2005 9:30:15 PM","TagFerret","That was 80% of the problem with the TF game"
"5/5/2005 9:30:25 PM","Flux","Pandora's Zone. I posted about it last week or so"
"5/5/2005 9:30:32 PM","o1knives","The "evade the park ranger" syndrom?"
"5/5/2005 9:30:54 PM","o1knives","Or one person trying to run the whole thing?"
"5/5/2005 9:30:57 PM","SparkySU1","more like 90% of the problem"
"5/5/2005 9:31:03 PM","TagFerret","The one person bit."
"5/5/2005 9:31:09 PM","SparkySU1","yep"
"5/5/2005 9:31:11 PM","Sinistrahd","well, I am gonna get going now...  I need a snack before bed"
"5/5/2005 9:31:12 PM","LazerBait","well that and I kinda pissed him off a few time"
"5/5/2005 9:31:21 PM","Flux","http://www.ggaub.com/ltag/games.html#pandoraszone"
"5/5/2005 9:31:27 PM","SparkySU1","nite James............thanks for holding down the fort for me"
"5/5/2005 9:31:39 PM","Sinistrahd","night"
"5/5/2005 9:31:40 PM","TagFerret","Take care, James"
"5/5/2005 9:31:45 PM","Sinistrahd","you too"
"5/5/2005 9:31:47 PM","Flux","l8r Sin"
"5/5/2005 9:31:55 PM","Jonny come Lately","BYe, James!"
"5/5/2005 9:31:55 PM","Sinistrahd","g8r bin"
"5/5/2005 9:32:04 PM","Sinistrahd","byE"
"5/5/2005 9:32:05 PM","Sinistrahd",":P"
"5/5/2005 9:32:09 PM","Flux","hehe"
"5/5/2005 9:32:48 PM","TagFerret","So, back to the Scenario game --"
"5/5/2005 9:32:48 PM","SparkySU1","I think for a LARP to be succesful, it must be run by a team.....its impossible for one person to do it all....and the leader of the team has to be the kind of person who delegates instead of trying to run everything"
"5/5/2005 9:33:00 PM","TagFerret","Agreed"
"5/5/2005 9:33:04 PM","Jonny come Lately","Very true"
"5/5/2005 9:33:19 PM","Flux","yeah. my game's not a LARP. just a simple twist on a zone game"
"5/5/2005 9:33:26 PM","LazerBait","also the way the brits do it is a lot of info is put out long before the event"
"5/5/2005 9:33:44 PM","Jonny come Lately","SOmetimes, it helps to have a familiar "universe" for your scenario.  The UK groups likes to base thiers on TV shows and movies"
"5/5/2005 9:34:01 PM","TagFerret","And must be willing to clamp down on disruptions -- I think Dave R was actually enjoying them, to the point some of the players (me included) enjoyed yanking his chain a bit to get him going... but in the end it slowed everything down."
"5/5/2005 9:34:21 PM","Flux","troublemaker!"
"5/5/2005 9:34:22 PM","Flux",";-)"
"5/5/2005 9:34:28 PM","TagFerret","Thats me..."
"5/5/2005 9:34:32 PM","LazerBait","I hope he liked it.. I was doing it as well"
"5/5/2005 9:34:34 PM","Jonny come Lately","Sometimes its hard to step back out of Character (OOC)"
"5/5/2005 9:34:56 PM","SparkySU1","hehehehe......poor Dave, I think by the end of the games we were all becoming troublemakers..."
"5/5/2005 9:35:06 PM","LazerBait","Pter was pissed"
"5/5/2005 9:35:29 PM","Jonny come Lately","Some good resources for making scenaio games are: LARP books like "Rules to Live By""
"5/5/2005 9:35:37 PM","SparkySU1","yes, peter was ready to mutany and take over the ship!"
"5/5/2005 9:35:39 PM","SparkySU1",":)"
"5/5/2005 9:35:42 PM","LazerBait","and out team really messed up the second game by not controlling the cabins. Plus the scouts moved the time clocks"
"5/5/2005 9:35:45 PM","TagFerret","That's why it didn't bother me too much (I was getting reeal tired by then anyway), but I felt bad for the guys who had flown in from halfway actross the country, only to not get in the tag time they expected."
"5/5/2005 9:35:48 PM","Flux","Lightning Bolt! Death! Death!"
"5/5/2005 9:35:58 PM","Jonny come Lately","Books on creating FPS game levels like "The DeathMatch MAnifesto""
"5/5/2005 9:36:50 PM","Jonny come Lately","And common "universe" information pooks like the StarWars Encylopedia"
"5/5/2005 9:36:52 PM","LazerBait","the thing was I was not clear on what we needed to do so I just shot everything"
"5/5/2005 9:37:04 PM","TagFerret","Yeah, that moving the clocks bit really p!$$ed me off -- fought my way into a cabin only to get killed while looking for a clock hidden under a back bunk with the lights out (safety hazard too)."
"5/5/2005 9:37:19 PM","LazerBait","I had the best and worst place to snipe from...the porta potties"
"5/5/2005 9:37:36 PM","SparkySU1","lol"
"5/5/2005 9:37:51 PM","LazerBait","the smeel was really bad. I hope that is better next year"
"5/5/2005 9:37:56 PM","Jonny come Lately","TF brings up another point - Safty Rules and Group Rules like "Don't move the Props unless you told to""
"5/5/2005 9:38:11 PM","LazerBait","and how about no kids?"
"5/5/2005 9:38:13 PM","SparkySU1","at least you didn't hear the whistle blow and then start taking tags before you were even in position or had a clue as to what your team was doing"
"5/5/2005 9:38:22 PM","LazerBait","15 and up?"
"5/5/2005 9:38:33 PM","Jonny come Lately","KIds work, so long as they have an understanding of what they are roleplaying"
"5/5/2005 9:38:36 PM","SparkySU1","Actually, we will have 2 nites next year"
"5/5/2005 9:38:42 PM","SparkySU1","one nite will be adults only"
"5/5/2005 9:38:47 PM","SparkySU1","18+"
"5/5/2005 9:38:52 PM","LazerBait","sat night please"
"5/5/2005 9:39:01 PM","Jonny come Lately","Most kids in the 10-13 yr old age like roleplayiung with realisting looking props"
"5/5/2005 9:39:01 PM","TagFerret","brb guys, need to talk to boss"
"5/5/2005 9:39:13 PM","LazerBait","under 18 if you know them well enough that you know they will behave"
"5/5/2005 9:39:49 PM","SparkySU1","will have to be Fri or Sun LB........as kids have school......unless we move TagFest into summer time"
"5/5/2005 9:39:55 PM","SparkySU1","when they are not in school"
"5/5/2005 9:40:30 PM","Flux","LB you're coming Sat, right?"
"5/5/2005 9:40:41 PM","LazerBait","yeah I think so... what time?"
"5/5/2005 9:40:44 PM","SparkySU1","Actually, I liked having the teenagers there.....gave lots of targets to shoot at........however, that doesn't help when they are all on your team......:P"
"5/5/2005 9:40:50 PM","Flux","same as usual: 1pm"
"5/5/2005 9:41:18 PM","Flux","I'm encouraging youths to join my club. I've got a neighborhood 13yo coming on Sat."
"5/5/2005 9:41:28 PM","SparkySU1","........as for hiding the clocks...........sounds like something LB would do"
"5/5/2005 9:41:30 PM","SparkySU1",":)"
"5/5/2005 9:41:41 PM","Jonny come Lately","Yeah at TAgCon one year, I was literally hunted down and eliminated by "younger" members of my own team."
"5/5/2005 9:41:49 PM","SparkySU1","I remeber the first tagfest when we played the Star Wars LARP........"
"5/5/2005 9:41:54 PM","LazerBait","the scouts were really too young for the game.. great for regular tag games or games that were light on the RP"
"5/5/2005 9:42:08 PM","LazerBait","HEY!!!!!!!"
"5/5/2005 9:42:24 PM","LazerBait","where do you get these crazy ideas from"
"5/5/2005 9:42:30 PM","Jonny come Lately","Light on the RP = faceless minions of good/evil"
"5/5/2005 9:42:35 PM","Flux","hehe"
"5/5/2005 9:42:49 PM","Jonny come Lately","think Storm Troopers"
"5/5/2005 9:42:57 PM","LazerBait","name one time I cheated in a game of tag!"
"5/5/2005 9:43:13 PM","SparkySU1","I think if they were breifed before hand, instead of standing around listening to the plot line, then things would have went alot smoother......next year the rules will be posted at least 2 weeks before TagFest for the games, anyone violating the rules will be out of the game"
"5/5/2005 9:43:32 PM","Flux","handouts :)"
"5/5/2005 9:43:43 PM","Flux","if they're reading, their not interrupting. ;-)"
"5/5/2005 9:43:47 PM","SparkySU1","OOOOOOOOh........I DON:T HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHO THE TRAITOR IS...............GABRIEL"
"5/5/2005 9:43:51 PM","SparkySU1","lol"
"5/5/2005 9:43:53 PM","Jonny come Lately","Mialouts when registration is confirmed"
"5/5/2005 9:44:00 PM","Flux","yeah"
"5/5/2005 9:44:09 PM","LazerBait","that was not cheating... at that time"
"5/5/2005 9:44:16 PM","LazerBait","but now it is"
"5/5/2005 9:44:21 PM","SparkySU1","......................sssssssssssssssssssssssssssst pttttttttttttttttttt ........crack..........sssssssssssssss ppppppppppppppt.............."
"5/5/2005 9:44:35 PM","SparkySU1","just can't figure out how laserbait always knows where we are........hmmm"
"5/5/2005 9:44:46 PM","SparkySU1","..........hmmmm............why is there so much static on the radio............"
"5/5/2005 9:44:49 PM","LazerBait","hehehehehehe still not cheating"
"5/5/2005 9:45:11 PM","LazerBait","hey it is your fault for not having a head sety"
"5/5/2005 9:45:43 PM","SparkySU1","............oh, Dave, can you put a magnetic swich in my gun so that when I wear a special gun it will have extra range and firepower ..but only when I wear the glove so nobody else will know about it?"
"5/5/2005 9:45:45 PM","LazerBait","hope everyone knows we are just having fun"
"5/5/2005 9:45:49 PM","Jonny come Lately","wasn't tha a song by 'Til Tuesday, "Voices Carry""
"5/5/2005 9:45:58 PM","Flux","LB, bring your radios, if you remember. :)"
"5/5/2005 9:46:11 PM","SparkySU1","...............now the plan is to flank to the left of the other team while we distract the other team in the middle............"
"5/5/2005 9:46:14 PM","LazerBait","hmmmmm I do not think that was my idea.."
"5/5/2005 9:46:24 PM","SparkySU1","Hey........LB..........arn't you on the other team?"
"5/5/2005 9:46:37 PM","SparkySU1",".................ARG...he just heard our team plan!"
"5/5/2005 9:46:38 PM","LazerBait","But I did ask if you could make it so other guns would do crazy thing at my command"
"5/5/2005 9:46:40 PM","SparkySU1",".............grin"
"5/5/2005 9:47:00 PM","SparkySU1","no........LB..........you NEVER cheat ............not you!"
"5/5/2005 9:47:00 PM","LazerBait","hehehehehehe I was right in front of you and your whole team did not notice"
"5/5/2005 9:47:28 PM","LazerBait","and I said name ONE time.. thank you very much"
"5/5/2005 9:47:34 PM","Flux","hehe"
"5/5/2005 9:47:44 PM","SparkySU1","actually I was on your team on that one..........we were rolling on the ground because Peter didn't realize it till after he had given his team briefing"
"5/5/2005 9:48:18 PM","LazerBait","I was right behind him making fun of him"
"5/5/2005 9:48:42 PM","SparkySU1","Doug calls you the rule tester, cause if there is a hole in the rules, you will find it...and exploit it fully :)"
"5/5/2005 9:49:12 PM","LazerBait","now there is also the game we played in Bellingham many years ago where I got into my Vanagon and just sat there shooting everyone"
"5/5/2005 9:49:22 PM","LazerBait","I was in plain sight but no one looked at me"
"5/5/2005 9:49:33 PM","SparkySU1","It was definately funny............I think even Peter laughed after he got over the initial shock/anger"
"5/5/2005 9:49:35 PM","LazerBait","yep"
"5/5/2005 9:50:04 PM","SparkySU1","Tis one of the reasons I love being on your team ;)"
"5/5/2005 9:50:26 PM","LazerBait","well I am getting fat and old so I have to do something"
"5/5/2005 9:50:59 PM","LazerBait","brb.. I need answeras to tech questions from all of you"
"5/5/2005 9:51:05 PM","SparkySU1","I was ready to Shoot Dave when he put you , peter, Gabriel, Brian, and three other pro players on one team, and put me and Mike on the other team with all the teenagers..........lol"
"5/5/2005 9:51:33 PM","SparkySU1","Hey Partytagger, I didn't see you sneak in............"
"5/5/2005 9:51:36 PM","TagFerret","(back)"
"5/5/2005 9:51:47 PM","partytagger","Been lurking"
"5/5/2005 9:52:03 PM","TagFerret","Dave, you refering to me as a PRO player?  Hardly.  Old fat out-of-shape player maybe..."
"5/5/2005 9:52:29 PM","Jonny come Lately","How about suggestions for some good standard gear for Scenaio & Larp games"
"5/5/2005 9:52:40 PM","TagFerret","That's why I wanted the role of the ambassador in that first LARP, so that my only job woiuld be to get to the secondary evacuation spot and sit the rest of the game out!  lol"
"5/5/2005 9:52:50 PM","Jonny come Lately","Things like Cybikos, chess clocks, old Laptops, etc"
"5/5/2005 9:53:17 PM","SparkySU1","lol Brian......"
"5/5/2005 9:53:28 PM","SparkySU1","I've seen you play, you can't fool me.........."
"5/5/2005 9:53:42 PM","SparkySU1","where you lack in physics, you excell in tactics"
"5/5/2005 9:53:47 PM","Flux","Spy Gear Safe Cracker! :)}"
"5/5/2005 9:53:57 PM","Jonny come Lately","There you go!"
"5/5/2005 9:54:04 PM","TagFerret","My play style is very limitted -- find a good spot and snipe like hell!  Be where I'm not expected so I don't have to run as much..."
"5/5/2005 9:54:09 PM","Flux","that's what I'm using on Sat."
"5/5/2005 9:54:38 PM","Jonny come Lately","I pulled some ould Satelite dishes out of the trash and painted them up."
"5/5/2005 9:54:40 PM","SparkySU1","......my sugguestion would be to by a bunch of cheap egg timers"
"5/5/2005 9:54:45 PM","Flux","cool"
"5/5/2005 9:54:50 PM","SparkySU1","...they come in handy for all kinds of things"
"5/5/2005 9:54:56 PM","TagFerret","I like the satellite dishes idea..."
"5/5/2005 9:55:13 PM","Jonny come Lately","I made stands for them, to"
"5/5/2005 9:55:32 PM","Flux","that would be great for a permanent field. not so much for a mobile one. ;-)"
"5/5/2005 9:55:40 PM","SparkySU1","bombs, death timers, simulation timers, rocket countdowns, building possesion timers, etc"
"5/5/2005 9:55:59 PM","TagFerret","I definitely think visually interesting environments add to the fun.  That's why I'm trying (so far unsuccesfully) to get permissiopn to play in the forts and stuff around here."
"5/5/2005 9:56:04 PM","SparkySU1","...be sure to get the ones that will count both up and down"
"5/5/2005 9:56:04 PM","Jonny come Lately","They are failry portable - the stands have 4 removeble legs made of PVC"
"5/5/2005 9:57:05 PM","SparkySU1","I'm working on an article on making affordable forts that are perfect for games, I won't say more then that........(or someone will beat me to finishing the article......lol)"
"5/5/2005 9:57:18 PM","Flux","hehe"
"5/5/2005 9:57:34 PM","Flux","100 monkeys could if you wait too long. ;-P"
"5/5/2005 9:57:47 PM","SparkySU1","lol"
"5/5/2005 9:57:58 PM","TagFerret","What I need to do is see if there's a place similar to Magness Tree Farlm anywhere around here -- the second cabin was awesome, loved the zone we set up in there!"
"5/5/2005 9:58:33 PM","Jonny come Lately","DArn, the old TagCon Pictures are gone for that year."
"5/5/2005 9:58:46 PM","TagFerret","BTW, speaking of taking forever to get something done..."
"5/5/2005 9:58:55 PM","TagFerret","I satrted updating my web pages"
"5/5/2005 9:59:04 PM","TagFerret","and tyoing them together for navigation."
"5/5/2005 9:59:36 PM","TagFerret","The root page so far is http://home.comcast.net/~ferret1963/Lazer_Tag.HTML"
"5/5/2005 9:59:38 PM","SparkySU1","Another thing that is handy for LARP games is a deck of index cards which can be used for anything from clue cards, to prop stand ins"
"5/5/2005 9:59:58 PM","TagFerret","Still a work-in-progress though..."
"5/5/2005 10:00:16 PM","Jonny come Lately","On the same vein - Puch out Buisiness card paper and envelopes"
"5/5/2005 10:00:35 PM","SparkySU1","lol............can't criticize there........1SLT is 3 years old, and its still "a work in progress" lol"
"5/5/2005 10:01:04 PM","SparkySU1","A deck of cards can be handy for all kinds of things too"
"5/5/2005 10:01:19 PM","SparkySU1","Especially for picking teams, or conflict resolutions..."
"5/5/2005 10:01:24 PM","TagFerret","Ultimately I'm trying to do something like Khan Jal's, with pictures and tech specs for every tag type product I've seen."
"5/5/2005 10:01:35 PM","LazerBait","OK back"
"5/5/2005 10:01:52 PM","TagFerret","Almost bought that MILES system on eBay this week, just to play with it -- but couldn't really justify it at this point."
"5/5/2005 10:02:14 PM","LazerBait","what is on your wish list for gear TF?"
"5/5/2005 10:02:18 PM","Jonny come Lately","Do you want me to send you the Miles 200 communication specifications?"
"5/5/2005 10:02:25 PM","Jonny come Lately","Miles 2000"
"5/5/2005 10:03:07 PM","TagFerret","Photon, for now.  I have a lot of weird stuff and finally got my Star Trek phasers (South Bend)."
"5/5/2005 10:03:20 PM","LazerBait","I have some photon"
"5/5/2005 10:03:21 PM","partytagger","What is the URL for Khan Jai's site?"
"5/5/2005 10:03:32 PM","TagFerret","Hoping to get my father-in-law's old Daisy Quick Skill set, not really LT though.. it is a real-gun trianer."
"5/5/2005 10:03:36 PM","LazerBait","yeah I have for of those phaser"
"5/5/2005 10:03:44 PM","LazerBait","4"
"5/5/2005 10:03:54 PM","TagFerret","Wanna sell your photon set?"
"5/5/2005 10:04:03 PM","partytagger","Brian , it is a good job your coding tn the LTTO is better than your HTML lol"
"5/5/2005 10:04:13 PM","LazerBait","nope...I will just send it to you"
"5/5/2005 10:04:31 PM","partytagger","Check your links lol"
"5/5/2005 10:04:33 PM","TagFerret","lol, I don't do ANT HTML coding, it's all just the comcast web page wizard."
"5/5/2005 10:04:38 PM","TagFerret","*any"
"5/5/2005 10:05:04 PM","TagFerret","Oh, that -- the links are not there yet, only the one to the history page"
"5/5/2005 10:05:06 PM","LazerBait","just email me a shipping address and when I can I will send it"
"5/5/2005 10:05:13 PM","TagFerret","I am still working on the others"
"5/5/2005 10:05:48 PM","LazerBait","yeah know I may only have one gun.. two helmets howeve"
"5/5/2005 10:07:26 PM","Jonny come Lately","Gotta go - it 10PM and I have to tuck the kiddo in"
"5/5/2005 10:07:30 PM","Jonny come Lately","TTFN!"
"5/5/2005 10:07:31 PM","TagFerret","That would be fine -- I mostly want to get pics and figure out the signal format.  Not likely to actually play with them, nobody else I know has any."
"5/5/2005 10:07:39 PM","TagFerret","Take care, ANdy"
"5/5/2005 10:07:44 PM","LazerBait","OK questions.. if I use a 7.2 nicad pack for LTTO what do I have to do to make it work right?"
"5/5/2005 10:08:12 PM","TagFerret","Deluxe or Drone?"
"5/5/2005 10:08:15 PM","LazerBait","drone"
"5/5/2005 10:08:30 PM","TagFerret","just a minute, let me pull up the schematics"
"5/5/2005 10:09:20 PM","SparkySU1","Would be easier to get a 12V nicad pack and then use Regulators no?"
"5/5/2005 10:09:31 PM","Flux","or a 9.6"
"5/5/2005 10:09:33 PM","LazerBait","I was guessing I would have to use some mosfet to power the LED and tap into that batt pack for the CPU.. would 3.75 V work for that?"
"5/5/2005 10:09:44 PM","LazerBait","it is a matter of room"
"5/5/2005 10:09:51 PM","LazerBait","unless I make my own pack"
"5/5/2005 10:09:57 PM","Flux","you found a 7.2 that fits?"
"5/5/2005 10:10:16 PM","LazerBait","... nope.. I am building a drone into an airsoft case"
"5/5/2005 10:10:21 PM","Flux","ah"
"5/5/2005 10:10:43 PM","Flux","how far have you gotten? anything to show off this weekend?"
"5/5/2005 10:10:44 PM","LazerBait","but it is going to be more for ESS games.. still will do LTTO however"
"5/5/2005 10:11:15 PM","LazerBait","nothing for this weekend. I am seeing what I can do with some juck I have here and a broken drone TF may send me"
"5/5/2005 10:11:30 PM","Flux","ah"
"5/5/2005 10:11:42 PM","Flux","just getting the feel for modding with LTTO, eh?"
"5/5/2005 10:12:05 PM","LazerBait","yep...I think it is really over my head but hey it is cheap so why not try"
"5/5/2005 10:12:27 PM","Flux","heh, so long as you're not trying to add new components, it shouldn't be too hard."
"5/5/2005 10:12:39 PM","LazerBait","well......"
"5/5/2005 10:13:06 PM","Flux","that's why all my mods are just phyisical. no electronic mods to speak of, really. the auto-fire-on-lock is probably as complex as I'll go"
"5/5/2005 10:13:41 PM","TagFerret","Okay, here we go."
"5/5/2005 10:13:45 PM","Flux","ironically, the drone mod TF posted includes the counter to my auto-fire-on-lock tagger. hehe"
"5/5/2005 10:14:15 PM","TagFerret","Assuming you use 7.2V directly for the 9V source, and put in a 5.0V regulator for VCC tap (use a full 1 amp regulator) --"
"5/5/2005 10:14:41 PM","TagFerret","change the two 10-ohm 1/4W resistors in the dome to 5.6 ohms each"
"5/5/2005 10:15:05 PM","TagFerret","and the 9.1 ohms 1/2W resistor on the main PCB to 5.1 ohms"
"5/5/2005 10:15:12 PM","TagFerret","That alone should do it."
"5/5/2005 10:15:36 PM","LazerBait","what about the IR led?"
"5/5/2005 10:16:01 PM","LazerBait","the gun will still power it fine?"
"5/5/2005 10:16:17 PM","LazerBait","or is that the 9.1 ohm resisitor?"
"5/5/2005 10:16:22 PM","TagFerret","It is being driven by the "9V" (now 7.2V) source, these resistor changes make it get the same current as before but with lower voltage -- maybe a bit more current than stock, but not much."
"5/5/2005 10:16:40 PM","TagFerret","Yes, that's the 9.1 ohm resistor"
"5/5/2005 10:17:11 PM","TagFerret","Since you will use 5V regulated for VCC, we don't have to worry about messing with the pre-drive circuit, so this helps a lot."
"5/5/2005 10:17:35 PM","TagFerret","It would be different if we were trying to put NiCd or NiMH AA's in the LTTO tray."
"5/5/2005 10:17:37 PM","LazerBait","ah ok.. would it ialso work if I went with 8.4 volts and just tap into the batt pack at the 3rd cell for the VCC?"
"5/5/2005 10:18:09 PM","TagFerret","No, that's the pre-drive problem.  3 cells = 3.6V = the predrivers don't quite want to work right."
"5/5/2005 10:18:25 PM","LazerBait","and 4 cells would be too much"
"5/5/2005 10:18:25 PM","TagFerret","SO need 4 cells = 4.8V will work OK."
"5/5/2005 10:18:27 PM","TagFerret","But...."
"5/5/2005 10:18:52 PM","TagFerret","the battery pack drains unevenly, so you can't recharge as a pack -- have to do it one section at a time."
"5/5/2005 10:18:56 PM","TagFerret","Big pain."
"5/5/2005 10:19:04 PM","LazerBait","it will? see sometimes Nicad have a higher voltage than rated right after they have been charged"
"5/5/2005 10:19:11 PM","TagFerret","So, use the voltage regulator and all current comes from the whole pack."
"5/5/2005 10:19:28 PM","LazerBait","sould like that would be the best"
"5/5/2005 10:19:44 PM","TagFerret","Remember, the low-side batteries have more of a load on them than the high-side."
"5/5/2005 10:19:48 PM","LazerBait","is that info posted anywhere so I could look it up when needed?"
"5/5/2005 10:19:56 PM","TagFerret","Not yet."
"5/5/2005 10:20:07 PM","TagFerret","Should end up on my mods page when I get it done."
"5/5/2005 10:20:15 PM","LazerBait","I bet Flux is getting it down right now!"
"5/5/2005 10:20:23 PM","Flux","hehe, not even"
"5/5/2005 10:20:44 PM","Flux","I'll let other people handle the really heavy mods"
"5/5/2005 10:20:53 PM","LazerBait","hmmm I wonder how I can keep this transcript"
"5/5/2005 10:21:04 PM","Flux","be sure to take lots of pics of your project LB, so Taz can put it on seattlelazertag"
"5/5/2005 10:21:10 PM","TagFerret","click on the Transcript button, opens a new window."
"5/5/2005 10:21:10 PM","SparkySU1","I'll post the transcript tommorrow"
"5/5/2005 10:21:19 PM","TagFerret","copy-and-paste it all to a word processor."
"5/5/2005 10:21:25 PM","TagFerret","Taht's what I do each time."
"5/5/2005 10:21:39 PM","LazerBait","thanks Dave..."
"5/5/2005 10:22:05 PM","LazerBait","OK next question"
"5/5/2005 10:22:12 PM","LazerBait","this one is hard to explain"
"5/5/2005 10:22:33 PM","LazerBait","I am going to mount the drone sensor in an ESS housing"
"5/5/2005 10:22:50 PM","LazerBait","this gun will be used mostly for wow/ess games"
"5/5/2005 10:23:24 PM","LazerBait","but I was thinking about the tsop in the second barrel and was wondering if there was a way to make that a sensor as well"
"5/5/2005 10:23:46 PM","TagFerret","An additional hit sensor, not a lock-on sensor?"
"5/5/2005 10:23:53 PM","LazerBait","yep"
"5/5/2005 10:24:17 PM","LazerBait","not THAT tsop as such.. just of there was any I could use"
"5/5/2005 10:24:23 PM","TagFerret","The output siganls need to be summed together.  This requires an AND gate."
"5/5/2005 10:24:53 PM","TagFerret","The AND gate is powered from Vsw, just like the dome receiver and lock-on receiver."
"5/5/2005 10:24:54 PM","Flux","LB, have you checked out Bill's mods on my site? the guy that made the helmet sensors for his Deluxes?"
"5/5/2005 10:24:59 PM","LazerBait","and then of course would it work in LTTO mode as well as wow"
"5/5/2005 10:25:18 PM","TagFerret","One input of the AND is from the output of the Dome receiver, the other from the output of the TSOP/external receiver."
"5/5/2005 10:25:26 PM","LazerBait","yeah those looked good but I have many extra ESS housing to use"
"5/5/2005 10:25:47 PM","Flux","I meant as far as how he did it. seems like a lot of it could apply to the Drone"
"5/5/2005 10:25:55 PM","TagFerret","Output of the AND goes to the main board where the Dome receiver output used to go."
"5/5/2005 10:26:06 PM","LazerBait","the other idea may work better and that is just to use one photodiode instead of a tsop"
"5/5/2005 10:26:29 PM","TagFerret","Now you have a circuit that goes LOW (= IR detected) whenever either of the two receivers output a LOW (IR detected)."
"5/5/2005 10:27:09 PM","TagFerret","Keep in mind, the TSOP in LTTO is 38-KHz only, it will not register ESS/WoW signals."
"5/5/2005 10:27:39 PM","LazerBait","yeah so no such thing as a tsop that its carrier freq can be changed?"
"5/5/2005 10:28:05 PM","TagFerret","None that I know of -- we had to hae the manufacturer do a custom for us to use in the LTTO dome."
"5/5/2005 10:28:41 PM","LazerBait","so would just using a photodiode work as well?"
"5/5/2005 10:29:02 PM","LazerBait","I know that is how the extra sensors work but they use 4 and I want to use one"
"5/5/2005 10:29:30 PM","TagFerret","Not quite as well -- it loads the front end down a bit.  If you will not be playing in really bright sun, though, it should do fine."
"5/5/2005 10:30:05 PM","LazerBait","any way around that?"
"5/5/2005 10:30:51 PM","TagFerret","No easy way."
"5/5/2005 10:31:09 PM","LazerBait","and seeing how I am up here I guess most of the time it will not be that bright"
"5/5/2005 10:32:12 PM","TagFerret","I would think you could hang two photodiodes off the front end, using the EXT_SNS line of the thunder pack, and get away with it there.  In Western Australia, or Arizona, I don't think it would work."
"5/5/2005 10:32:28 PM","LazerBait","I was thinking of making an extra barrel for the beacon. It would only send it signal towards how ever I am aiming at"
"5/5/2005 10:33:03 PM","TagFerret","Give them a "DANGER!" indication when you have them locked up?"
"5/5/2005 10:33:09 PM","LazerBait","yep"
"5/5/2005 10:33:51 PM","LazerBait","and Flux's auto gun would only get me if I aimed at it"
"5/5/2005 10:34:11 PM","SparkySU1","just testing audio"
"5/5/2005 10:34:16 PM","Flux","LB seems to think I actually use that gun."
"5/5/2005 10:34:18 PM","LazerBait","works"
"5/5/2005 10:34:34 PM","SparkySU1","have to pack for tommorrow, if you need me just hit the YOU RANG"
"5/5/2005 10:34:35 PM","LazerBait","I hope you use it.. good sentry gun"
"5/5/2005 10:34:48 PM","LazerBait","where are you going Dave?"
"5/5/2005 10:34:48 PM","TagFerret","OK, Gnite Dave'"
"5/5/2005 10:35:00 PM","SparkySU1","I'll be around....."
"5/5/2005 10:35:06 PM","Flux","if I can make it into an actual sentry, I will, but only in a scenario. it will never be my playing tagger"
"5/5/2005 10:35:23 PM","SparkySU1","Cathie and I are going out with her family to wiccyup lake......wherever the hell that is"
"5/5/2005 10:35:46 PM","LazerBait","oh that is just over that way"
"5/5/2005 10:35:52 PM","SparkySU1","camping trip!"
"5/5/2005 10:36:01 PM","SparkySU1","no tag though :("
"5/5/2005 10:36:06 PM","Flux","awwww"
"5/5/2005 10:36:09 PM","SparkySU1","would rather go to AUBURN :)"
"5/5/2005 10:36:15 PM","Flux","yeah! :)"
"5/5/2005 10:36:28 PM","SparkySU1","was out voted on this one though....  :I"
"5/5/2005 10:36:28 PM","TagFerret","Speaking of wives, I think I still have one so I should probably go home and see her..."
"5/5/2005 10:36:32 PM","LazerBait","oh??? I bet you will sneak a few guns in just in case there are some kids there that need something to do"
"5/5/2005 10:36:51 PM","SparkySU1","<shhhhhhhhhhhh, don't tell Cathie >"
"5/5/2005 10:36:56 PM","TagFerret","lol"
"5/5/2005 10:36:59 PM","Flux","hehe"
"5/5/2005 10:37:03 PM","SparkySU1","you are getting to know me too well John ;)"
"5/5/2005 10:37:04 PM","TagFerret","you are worse than me..."
"5/5/2005 10:37:07 PM","LazerBait","yeah TF you do not want to loose her.."
"5/5/2005 10:37:08 PM","Flux","I always bring a few. :)"
"5/5/2005 10:37:25 PM","Flux","yeah, go home, since you're not actually WORKING at the moment."
"5/5/2005 10:37:26 PM","TagFerret","Nobody else would put up with me, that's for sure!"
"5/5/2005 10:37:42 PM","LazerBait","hahahahaha why do any of them put up with us"
"5/5/2005 10:38:06 PM","TagFerret","Crud, forgot I need to pick up a prescription too (before 9) so I am definitely outa here -- take care guys, good to hear from everyone again!"
"5/5/2005 10:38:21 PM","LazerBait","OK see ya next thurs!!!"
"5/5/2005 10:38:35 PM","partytagger","Nite"
"5/5/2005 10:38:48 PM","o1knives","Well, it's late.  I'm heading off too."
"5/5/2005 10:39:07 PM","LazerBait","OK nighters..guess we should all do that"
"5/5/2005 10:39:57 PM","partytagger","Nite everyone"
"5/5/2005 10:40:03 PM","SparkySU1","nite"
"5/5/2005 10:40:19 PM","SparkySU1","Khan you alive or jus lurking?\"
"5/5/2005 10:40:34 PM","SparkySU1","There dropping like flys!"
"5/5/2005 10:40:39 PM","Flux","hehe"
"5/5/2005 10:41:01 PM","Flux","I've got E.R. to watch. won't be going to bed any time soon. :)"
"5/5/2005 10:43:40 PM","Flux","l8r, peeps"
"5/5/2005 11:23:28 PM","SparkySU1","hello Blah!"
"5/5/2005 11:23:49 PM","blah","hehehe Dave"
"5/5/2005 11:23:54 PM","SparkySU1","The session is pretty much over"
"5/5/2005 11:23:58 PM","blah","just seeing if anyone was still here"
"5/5/2005 11:23:59 PM","SparkySU1","blah?"
"5/5/2005 11:24:22 PM","SparkySU1","session ended about oh, 20 mins ago"
"5/5/2005 11:24:32 PM","blah","be sure not to kill any trees this weekend OK/?"
"5/5/2005 11:24:37 PM","SparkySU1","I was just working on posting the transcript"
"5/5/2005 11:24:46 PM","SparkySU1",".............lol..........okay"
"5/5/2005 11:25:06 PM","blah","where do you post that at?"
"5/5/2005 11:25:11 PM","SparkySU1","hey, I didn't kill any trees...dem was already dead"
"5/5/2005 11:25:27 PM","SparkySU1","I put it up in the entrance to the chat room on www.1SLT.com"
"5/5/2005 11:25:37 PM","blah","OK good"
"5/5/2005 11:25:39 PM","SparkySU1","I think last weeks is still there"
"5/5/2005 11:25:43 PM","blah","BTW this is John"
"5/5/2005 11:25:47 PM","blah","aka LB"
"5/5/2005 11:25:50 PM","SparkySU1","oh........okay"
"5/5/2005 11:25:53 PM","SparkySU1","lol"
"5/5/2005 11:26:07 PM","blah","AKA the cheater"
"5/5/2005 11:26:10 PM","SparkySU1","fingers too tired to type in Laserbait"
"5/5/2005 11:26:17 PM","SparkySU1","lol........"
"5/5/2005 11:26:30 PM","SparkySU1","sorry,  gotta pick on someone............"
"5/5/2005 11:26:36 PM","blah","it is OK"
"5/5/2005 11:26:56 PM","blah","I played fair this year"
"5/5/2005 11:27:01 PM","SparkySU1","have to balance the tree jokes..grin"
"5/5/2005 11:27:16 PM","SparkySU1","So I noticed"
"5/5/2005 11:27:32 PM","blah","and I still kicked ass..."
"5/5/2005 11:27:34 PM","SparkySU1","....but we is still keeping an eye on you ;)"
"5/5/2005 11:27:37 PM","blah","just not in as many games"
"5/5/2005 11:27:51 PM","SparkySU1","Oh"
"5/5/2005 11:28:00 PM","SparkySU1","btw........I have your circuit from Steradian"
"5/5/2005 11:28:04 PM","blah","OK off to bed"
"5/5/2005 11:28:13 PM","blah","cool.. what should we do with it?"
"5/5/2005 11:28:24 PM","SparkySU1","I plan to work on it by the end of the month"
"5/5/2005 11:28:34 PM","SparkySU1","I'll get both of our guns going at the same time..."
"5/5/2005 11:28:49 PM","SparkySU1","that way I can use yours to test mine, and mine to test yours"
"5/5/2005 11:28:49 PM","blah","I have a few cases I may want to use.. What airsoft do you have down there?"
"5/5/2005 11:29:19 PM","SparkySU1","Lol......you name the cheap chineese Airsoft case, and I probably have one"
"5/5/2005 11:29:37 PM","SparkySU1","Have a ton of AEG's I'm going to test this weekend"
"5/5/2005 11:29:44 PM","SparkySU1","Hope to have pics for Monday..."
"5/5/2005 11:29:50 PM","blah","really? I may want to buy some"
"5/5/2005 11:30:24 PM","SparkySU1","And these AEG's are in the $30-$40 price range...but full size"
"5/5/2005 11:30:32 PM","blah","yeah"
"5/5/2005 11:30:38 PM","blah","I just bought one"
"5/5/2005 11:30:47 PM","blah","should be here in a week or so"
"5/5/2005 11:30:53 PM","SparkySU1","There are 2 MP5 looking ones posted in photo gallery"
"5/5/2005 11:30:55 PM","blah","but there was about 3 I wanted to get"
"5/5/2005 11:31:10 PM","SparkySU1","..........don't buy from anyone till you check with me"
"5/5/2005 11:31:23 PM","SparkySU1","I can get you good prices"
"5/5/2005 11:31:31 PM","blah","cool.. I need that"
"5/5/2005 11:32:18 PM","blah","any spring guns?"
"5/5/2005 11:32:34 PM","SparkySU1","Yes,"
"5/5/2005 11:32:43 PM","SparkySU1","but they are flimsy shells"
"5/5/2005 11:32:53 PM","SparkySU1","would need to be majorly reinforced"
"5/5/2005 11:33:04 PM","blah","that is OK for the gun I am making.. may need need any of those..."
"5/5/2005 11:33:08 PM","SparkySU1","...I wouldn't waste my time on them"
"5/5/2005 11:33:31 PM","blah","well I get rid of the whole front of the gun"
"5/5/2005 11:33:39 PM","SparkySU1","When I get a chance, I'll send you a picture of my junk pile of parts...you can tell me what you want from it...lol"
"5/5/2005 11:33:48 PM","blah","cool"
"5/5/2005 11:33:58 PM","blah","I really want to get back into things"
"5/5/2005 11:34:06 PM","SparkySU1","If you are looking for the stocks, I think I have a few"
"5/5/2005 11:34:36 PM","SparkySU1","I also have some liquid plastic in stock, if you need any special parts molded up"
"5/5/2005 11:34:37 PM","blah","I may not be able to build what I want but I can at least plan it out and get the parts and see if a buddy I have up here can help me"
"5/5/2005 11:34:49 PM","SparkySU1","...need to use the stuff up this summer before it goes bad"
"5/5/2005 11:35:16 PM","SparkySU1","Also too, this fall we are getting a machine shop put in at work!"
"5/5/2005 11:35:24 PM","SparkySU1","..........I can hardly wait............GRIN"
"5/5/2005 11:35:28 PM","blah","oh that is cool"
"5/5/2005 11:35:40 PM","blah","Guess where Shelly's Dad works"
"5/5/2005 11:35:44 PM","blah","Paccar"
"5/5/2005 11:35:54 PM","SparkySU1","so I might be able to tool up some metal lense assemblies like Steradian's"
"5/5/2005 11:35:58 PM","blah","and he is like head guy in the prototype shop"
"5/5/2005 11:36:02 PM","SparkySU1","..........oh man!"
"5/5/2005 11:36:11 PM","blah","you should see the place.. we could have a blast there"
"5/5/2005 11:36:12 PM","SparkySU1","MARRY THAT GIRL FOR THE DAD!"
"5/5/2005 11:36:22 PM","SparkySU1","lol"
"5/5/2005 11:36:35 PM","blah","the vac former alone is OMG"
"5/5/2005 11:36:37 PM","SparkySU1","are we bad or what?"
"5/5/2005 11:36:52 PM","SparkySU1",".............derool derool derool.........."
"5/5/2005 11:37:04 PM","blah","and this laser thingy that gut parts from molds to exactly what you want"
"5/5/2005 11:37:05 PM","SparkySU1","I would love to get my hands on a vacum machine..."
"5/5/2005 11:37:28 PM","SparkySU1","unfortunately, that is out of my price range, and residential zoning...lol"
"5/5/2005 11:37:39 PM","blah","and every metal machine you can think of"
"5/5/2005 11:37:39 PM","SparkySU1","OH"
"5/5/2005 11:38:02 PM","blah","a vac former can be made at home for cheap"
"5/5/2005 11:38:04 PM","SparkySU1","And I bought one of Doug's Pulse Rifles off of Pete Morton from the U.K."
"5/5/2005 11:38:21 PM","SparkySU1","yeah, but those home built ones don't work all that well"
"5/5/2005 11:38:27 PM","blah","true"
"5/5/2005 11:38:29 PM","SparkySU1","at least not for what I'm wanting to do"
"5/5/2005 11:39:01 PM","SparkySU1","........I'm hoping I can mold Doug's Pulse Rifle and make a few adjustments and then make my own mold to make knock offs"
"5/5/2005 11:39:13 PM","blah","he would like that"
"5/5/2005 11:39:27 PM","blah","add a place for LTTO domes"
"5/5/2005 11:39:46 PM","SparkySU1","......if I sell any, I plan on giving him a percentage, if nothing else I'll help pay for his plane ticket to TagFest lol"
"5/5/2005 11:39:56 PM","SparkySU1","You were reading my mind"
"5/5/2005 11:40:15 PM","blah","in fact I think I know where"
"5/5/2005 11:40:23 PM","blah","but I would have to see one again"
"5/5/2005 11:40:24 PM","SparkySU1","Imagine Tagfest with 20 LTTO Pulse Rifles...with added muzzle flash!"
"5/5/2005 11:40:49 PM","blah","I wish we lived closer"
"5/5/2005 11:40:52 PM","SparkySU1","It should be here in about 4 weeks ......(hate over seas shipping...)"
"5/5/2005 11:41:08 PM","blah","hey I really have to get to bed"
"5/5/2005 11:41:12 PM","blah","ttyl"
"5/5/2005 11:41:21 PM","SparkySU1","okay......nite John"